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Post by Mo Mon Apr 13, 2015 7:15 pm

Anybody know anything about these things. How much heat do you think I can get with this blower exhaust heater. I have a roots 45. Little giant is getting on my nerves.

Magic Wands Universal HX Magic_10

$699.00


Universal Heat Exchanger
Solid 1/4” steal universal heat exchanger for coolant or blower/exhaust heat.  Copper Coiling.

14 3/4” x 7” x 12 1/2” high

3/8” NPT Pipe Thread inlet/outlet (brass)

2” Pipe thread inlet/outlet for exhaust or coolant use.

Mounting feet welded to frame for easy installation.

Excluded from Free Shipping Offer
Excluded from the standard warranty, as freezing voids warranty





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Post by Devon07 Mon Apr 13, 2015 7:21 pm

Does it say where its made?
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Post by Mo Mon Apr 13, 2015 7:24 pm

It doesn't Ill have to call tomorrow to get more info.
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Post by Devon07 Mon Apr 13, 2015 7:29 pm

That would play a big role with my purchasing it or not. Finding out where it was made would tell everything as far as quality goes.
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Post by Mo Mon Apr 13, 2015 7:35 pm

I wonder if Johns Heat Exchanger or Blue Baron makes them. The price is on the low side. Probably wont get more that 180 ATM.
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Post by milspec6 Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:23 pm

Figure the blower might get you 250 degree exhaust...you could probably expect to see about 180 - 190 degrees at best.

My concern would be the pressure rating of the heat exchanger. How thick is the copper?

Could just buy a Northstar Heater and cook it off at 250 degrees at max pressure. Wink
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Post by Mo Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:38 pm

Keep the questions coming. If it can handle 600 PSI I am good with that.

No way I have space for a Nortstar beast
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Post by milspec6 Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:59 pm

Copper cost money....at that price I suspect thin copper walls, that's all.

I like the sound of those heaters by John, but I still have doubts with an exhaust-only heating method.
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Post by Davey Cracker Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:04 pm

No need, waste of time and money, if you'd just replace the G'DAM bad QD you wouldn't have a prob with the LG. You're starting to piss me off now, Mo!! laughing laughing dancing
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Post by Andy Mc Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:50 am

Mo, Call Kacy at relia built, I think he can hook you up with a heat exchanger that will in stall very easy for you. I think you will also be pleased with his pricing.


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Post by Mo Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:57 am

Davey Cracker wrote:No need, waste of time and money, if you'd just replace the G'DAM bad QD you wouldn't have a prob with the LG. You're starting to piss me off now, Mo!!  laughing laughing dancing

I tested all the QDs
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Post by Mo Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:58 am

Andy Mc wrote:Mo,  Call Kacy at relia built,    I think he can hook you up with a heat exchanger that will in stall very easy for you.    I think you will also be pleased with his pricing.


Thanks Andy Ill give him a call.
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Post by dp1 Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:53 pm

Or you could drive to North Carolina and I bet you Eddy can fix the old one for ya Very Happy
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Post by Mo Tue Apr 14, 2015 5:41 pm

I called Magic Wand the heat exchanger is rate at 1000 PSI and it will range in the 160-180 temp range. I asked the coils was the same gauge as the little giant. He said it had a 1/2 coil?

The 3 low pressure lg $1390.00

The 3HP $1570.00
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Post by milspec6 Tue Apr 14, 2015 5:49 pm

160-180 will not make you happy. That would be about 130 - 150 atw on a cool night.

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Post by Davey Cracker Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:10 pm

Yea for sure, 160 at the machine isn't good! That's what I was getting before I finally got my LG fixed.  And it's sooo much better now at 220-240.

What do they charge for that HX?
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Post by Mo Tue Apr 14, 2015 7:33 pm

699.00

With my 19 ponies I would probably be closer to 160
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Post by Davey Cracker Tue Apr 14, 2015 7:51 pm

Price is low, it seems, but so is the temp like Rob said.
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Post by Matt; My carpet cleaner Tue Apr 14, 2015 8:44 pm

Check the blue baron hx
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Post by Mo Tue Apr 14, 2015 9:14 pm

If my lg coil is done I will seriously consider switching to HX
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Post by Davey Cracker Tue Apr 14, 2015 9:20 pm

Why would is be done?

Is it leaking?
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Post by Mo Tue Apr 14, 2015 9:22 pm

No but its been silver soldered twice and Im just waiting to dime to drop
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Post by SCCC Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:31 am

Mo,
This Hx is more like a preheater, I do not think it was intended to run motor exhaust through it, and you shouldn't attempt to run engine ex through it.
It would raise the internal pressure to much and blow it apart if you were to try.
Looks to be a great heater for a butler or PTO unit where only engine coolant, and blower heat is available.
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Post by SCCC Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:40 am

Mo,
I am sorry to say this but you really need to stick with a LPg heater, there is no way you are going to get any real heat out of what you have.
The Judson is awesome but it was never designed with HX in mind.
A Hx system works in LEVELS each level of heat raises the temp x amount and then sends it to the final engine HX to give it that final boost.
You will waste your money 600-900 on a HX system hoping that the 16 or 19 hp you have is going to raise water to 200* with one pass.
You can't beat the heat you get with the LPg heater, you can take a portable and fuel heat and be hotter than 75% of HX TM out here.

Mo, please just save your moolah and get your LPg heater fixed buddy, it WILL BE THE CHEAPER route in the long run guaranteed.
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Post by SCCC Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:45 am

I would like to say one more thing, Guys that live in a colder climate like Mo need to put a nice " T " Brass or SS one on the incoming water, and one on the out going water, This way at the end of the day you can crack the plug in the top "T" and open the bottom "T" and let it drain in just a few seconds.....no more frozen coils.
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