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Hoss 700 vs Rotovac 360i

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Post by dp1 on Tue Sep 29, 2015 7:56 pm

I hope someone has used them both can share their experience here, I've only used Rotovac 360i so far and I love it, a friend of mine is selling his great condition 360i and Scott is selling his Hoss, so I have to make a decision Very Happy
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Post by Davey Cracker on Tue Sep 29, 2015 10:21 pm

Sorry I can't help out.
But you lucky lil devil! Twisted Evil

I have a feeling the 360i is your machine, DP.....but could be wrong?

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Post by dp1 on Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:42 am

I wish I can try the Hoss out first, I really like 360i though.

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Post by milspec6 on Wed Sep 30, 2015 10:15 am

If you like the 360i, you will probably prefer it over the Hoss. If you liked the RX-20, you would love the Hoss.

The Hoss has a lot of great things going for it and is awesome on medium to deep pile carpets...can't say enough good things about it there and would be faster than that Rotovac tool.

That being said, your 360i is much lighter and has added head options, so if you like it, stick with it.
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Post by Devon07 on Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:43 pm

You need to try a HOSS in your area DP if you like it...I will make you a deal!

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Post by Devon07 on Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:45 pm

I played with the 360i and went with the HOSS....it seems like it was just made better.....its a quality made machine thats for sure, I know how help can be and was wanting something that could handle some bumps....Do you have a dealer in your area DP? I would like for you to try it for yourself.

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Post by milspec6 on Wed Sep 30, 2015 5:26 pm

I hope I didn't bad the wrong picture on the Hoss. I think it is the best rotary extractor out there today, that is why I bought one when they first came out.

It is just a Chevy vs Ford thing with those 360i machines. I have never run into a cleaner that decided to switch from one to the other.
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Post by Devon07 on Wed Sep 30, 2015 5:58 pm

No....Rob. The HOSS is what you and I liked...DP may like the other....he should try the HOSS before though.....im betting he will love it. Both are good machines IMO and he would be doing good to have either one.

This was my issue with the CRB that started all my mess lol I ultimately went with one I thought was a good buy....there may be a better CRB out there but I got a nice one and it will do what I need. I saved a few bucks too.

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Post by Davey Cracker on Wed Sep 30, 2015 6:24 pm

@milspec6 wrote:......  If you liked the RX-20, you would love the Hoss.......

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Why do you say that?

I know the RX is really dated, but is the hoss that much better?.....is it any lighter?

I know the wand I used 20 yrs ago ( how old my RX is at least), is terrible compared to what's available today...........is it the same with the rotarys, that much better now days?  

I've only used an RX and 360i.

DP will have his hand at the RX tomorrow night, because he will thankfully be helping on a job.

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Post by milspec6 on Wed Sep 30, 2015 6:41 pm

The Hoss feels more robust like the Rx and digs as well. It has some really nice improvements over that kind of machine such as:

1. The apron is flexible so you can actually push it right up against the moldings without damage and no need for a edging wand.

2. Disassembly for cleaning is very well thought out and fast.

3. Strong sales presence that customers notice

4. Weight lets it dig well while being less punishing than the RX20

5. Optional teflon glides on the vac slots

6. Larger surface area although I think there is a large head 360i now as well.

It is just a very good machine. Balanced and designed for a carpet cleaner to be able to service it quickly. That flexible apron is my favorite part, I can get up to less than a 1/4 inch from the walls with it.
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Post by Devon07 on Wed Sep 30, 2015 7:04 pm

The flex was the first thing I liked.....I didn't really put much thought into that when I purchased it BUT when I got it home and ran it, I was very pleased at how you can nudge the baseboards and the flex delivers "get close" detail. I really loved the head cap that just pulls off with no tools (pressure fit with an O-ring)....for cleaning.

I ran both pressured up and the weight along with the precision feel and quality is what won me. One other thing I liked now that I think about it....it was more responsive.....I could reverse and reverse again with accuracy and speed.

I certainly dont want to over talk this to DP.....but its obvious I chose the HOSS and this is why. If I had the 360i right now, im sure I would be praising it. Wink

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Post by dp1 on Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:47 pm

I purchased the Hoss from Scott and got it last Friday, thanks Scott for a great deal.
When I was searching for this type of threads prior to purchasing the unit, it seems like there were a lot of people praising the Hoss on commercial carpet, there was one who didn't like it on commercial ( these info were from another forum ), well I used it on my church today and although I can feel it digs and I can feel the power over the 360i, it really chatters on uneven surfaces, either on uneven subfloor or uneven carpets, the 360i also chatter but not as bad as the Hoss, I'm sure it's due to the speed.
So far, on the commercial carpeting they're about equal, I wouldn't use them at all on commercial with the exception of restaurant or grease pit, I stopped my tech halfway through the sanctuary and wand the rest out, first half took 2 hours, last half took an hour 20 minutes with prochem ti wand.
I will update this review when I do a large residential with the Hoss.

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Post by ACpower1 on Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:29 pm

ya the rotaries are definitely much slower but clean well.. which I why I prefer to keep the scrub step separate and use something more aggressive eat through it faster.. so the CRB then wand


I did a few jobs with the 360 lately and its great as always just kind of tedious.
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Post by milspec6 on Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:39 pm

@dp1 wrote:I purchased the Hoss from Scott and got it last Friday, thanks Scott for a great deal.
When I was searching for this type of threads prior to purchasing the unit, it seems like there were a lot of people praising the Hoss on commercial carpet, there was one who didn't like it on commercial ( these info were from another forum ), well I used it on my church today and although I can feel it digs and I can feel the power over the 360i, it really chatters on uneven surfaces, either on uneven subfloor or uneven carpets, the 360i also chatter but not as bad as the Hoss, I'm sure it's due to the speed.
So far, on the commercial carpeting they're about equal, I wouldn't use them at all on commercial with the exception of restaurant or grease pit, I stopped my tech halfway through the sanctuary and wand the rest out, first half took 2 hours, last half took an hour 20 minutes with prochem ti wand.
I will update this review when I do a large residential with the Hoss.

I have voiced that very experience many times on commercial and is also why I don't use it on commercial...although a grease pit would be the exception.

The real strength of this machine is on residential and not commercial like the RX20 would be. The head doesn't float enough for those uneven commercial slabs, but it digs better than any of them on residential carpets. Combine that machine with a prespray containing some encap and you have one of the best weapons in the game today.

You will come to like the easy cleaning of it as well.
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Post by dp1 on Tue Oct 20, 2015 7:50 am

@milspec6 wrote:
5.  Optional teflon glides on the vac slots

I would imagine this will help ease the motor and lengthen it's life, but is it affect the cleaning quality though ? Because those vac slots are the ones who provide the agitation.
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Post by milspec6 on Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:16 am

From the reports that I have read, the metal slots agitate better than the glides and since that is why you would use the machine, I stay with the metal.

The vac shoes are scalloped already, so I don't think a glide would help dry times any....might reduce load on the motor, but that is about it.
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Post by dp1 on Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:25 am

Well after a whole week went by without a good opportunity trying this bad boy out in residential, I decided to try it in my home, I actually tried procyon with it for the first time, although it's not a good setting ( my carpets are not dirty and it's only 2 bedrooms that has carpets ), I'm actually pretty impressed with the hoss, it digs really good, got a big chunk of hairs stuck in the clear vac line but it wasn't hard to get them out, and comparing the results with wand cleaning, it fluffed the fibers really good, I hope I can find a really soiled residential carpets to clean soon, so that I can really compare apples to apples with the 360i.

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