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Post by Rainbow Rider Sat Jan 09, 2016 2:39 pm

Hey guys,

It's pretty slow this time of year so I'm considering a ceramic tile job at a church. They also want carpet cleaning done in their school and offices. Trouble is the tile has been waxed, sealing the dirty grout. I don't have a clue on how much to charge. I'm thinking of applying the stripper with my Cimex machine and rinsing with a spinner. After that applying a grout seal. How much would you guys charge? Fly Fishing

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Post by milspec6 Sat Jan 09, 2016 4:48 pm

I like the Cimex / Spinner idea as long as the grout can take it.

What size of area? Square shaped or lots of angles and pillars?

I always estimate according to time, so the shape and size is important.
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Post by dp1 Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:42 pm

Yup, depend on the size and whether it's square foot tile or 1.5 sq ft tile, also the best thing to do before submitting a price is to test at least 3 small areas with stripper and small scrub pad by hand, make sure it doesn't have 10 layers of wax, also I usually like to add 10 - 20 % on top of your estimate to compensate error in time needed to clean.
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Post by Ken Raddon Sun Jan 10, 2016 8:47 am

Without a test area you would only be guessing like dp said.

As for laying the stripper down with a cimex that would be a colossal waste of time and material. More than anything "Stripper" needs dwell time. Now if you're going to lay it down with a cimex then let it dwell for 20 to 30 more minutes then hit it again with the cimex, that would work.

I have done a few stripping jobs that I rinsed with a spinner and it turned out great. Just DON'T let that slurry you suck up dry at all in the hoses or the tank.

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Post by Rainbow Rider Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:18 pm

The area is pretty much open and the tiles are 18". I was thinking .50 psf. I may be low. It doesn't look like there are several layers of wax to remove and the grout is in good shape and not too dirty. What do you think? confused

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Post by Davey Cracker Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:27 pm

You should definitely do a test area first before quoting a price.

There's just no way otherwise to tell how much wax is on there, how many times it's going to need to be stripped, how much materials will be needed, and most of all the time it will take to do it, without testing first...............trust me, don't go into it blind, you will screw yourself and loose money very likely.

Apply Stripper
Let Dwell
Scrub w black pad on 175
Then extract

You could have to do the process several or many times depending on how many coats are on it.............and it gets time consuming.
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Post by Davey Cracker Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:35 pm

Rainbow Rider wrote:The area is pretty much open and the tiles are 18". I was thinking .50 psf. I may be low. It doesn't look like there are several layers of wax to remove and the grout is in good shape and not too dirty. What do you think? confused

.50 s.f. is real low, especially if it needs to be stripped multiple times, which it will very likely will.

How many s.f. is the job?

I charge on average double that to clean T&G when it doesn't have wax on it.
I'd guess even on the low side if it can be stripped easily $1 s.f. min, and possibly up to $2-3 s.f if it's multi layers...............and there's no way to tell just looking at it.
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Post by milspec6 Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:39 pm

Wise words Davey, more guys lose money on these jobs than any other service due to wrong expectations.

I am terrible at bidding this kind of job and always shoot very high as a result. I rarely get the job, but that is okay with me, the ones that I do get always make money.
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Post by Rainbow Rider Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:48 pm

Thanks for all the advise. It's 1320sq. ft. I think $1 per sounds pretty good.

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Post by Davey Cracker Mon Jan 11, 2016 3:04 pm

milspec6 wrote:Wise words Davey, more guys lose money on these jobs than any other service due to wrong expectations.

I am terrible at bidding this kind of job and always shoot very high as a result.  I rarely get the job, but that is okay with me, the ones that I do get always make money.

Thank you,

Trust me, I've made the mistake of not testing first before quoting a price on stuff like this and it's bit me hard a couple times, and I've lost money, because it took 2-3 times as long as I thought it would..............And that's even after taking 3-4 hard surface classes where the instructor always stressed the importance of pre-testing. But no, I guess I thought I knew better lol, but I didn't, and it cost me.

I know now, I'll tell you that. Anytime I come accost the unknown or I'm not sure, I always take the time to test..........it'll save me/you in the long run for sure, and it impresses the customer, especially when they're getting multiple bids and the others aren't doing it.
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Post by Davey Cracker Mon Jan 11, 2016 3:07 pm

Rainbow Rider wrote:Thanks for all the advise. It's 1320sq. ft. I think $1 per sounds pretty good.

$1 s.f. Might sound good, but make sure that's going to really cover the amount of time an materials you're going to need to get it done.
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Post by Rainbow Rider Mon Jan 11, 2016 3:16 pm

Maybe $2 psf would be better. I forgot about the grout seal. I used to strip and wax grocery stores back in the day.

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Post by ACpower1 Mon Jan 11, 2016 5:46 pm

ya not like carpet where you dont need to test first.. can run into a lot of curve balls with hard surfaces
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