TI Challenger Swivel Wand !!

I will check it out.

It wouldn't be fair of me to say I don't like it without at least seeing or trying it.

I broke out my old Bentley wand tonight and put it back into service after a 3 year absence. You know what I found? It made a pretty good commercial wand...far better than residential which is what I used it for originally.

I blocked off the outer 2 jets and installed a wider fan on the interior jets in order to reach the width of the head. Now, it didn't have that horrible over-spray issue and actually put greater heat to the carpet.

I also realized that I really like the carbon fiber after all because it never transferred the heat to my hand. I was pushing 200 degree water and the tube never changed temperature. With a few light burns from the night before, this was a welcome benefit.

I think I will keep experimenting with this wand......I also think that there is a place for a swivel wand after-all. Maybe the loaner isn't a bad idea.

So thats why you never get rid of stuff

I think there might be a way to replace the manifold from the side hole on the vac head ( the one where I had the nut installed ). I will make sure and check this when I have the time.

I would think so, DP. I'd assume that the manifold was installed, and could be removed from the side hole in the head, but would have to look at it to be sure.

Either way, just like Rob, I'm not much of a fan of that concealed manifold, but once I see it, I think I'll be able to tell if it's cool or not.

Mo wrote:So thats why you never get rid of stuff

Sometimes walking through the garage is like a time capsule. In this case, it paid off.

after reading a lot and considering about 4 different wands,     the new mytee bentley is going to be my next wand for sure.  

They did away with the carbon fiber so its much more durable,   the new manifold design looks like a huge improvement over the old one,     the clear site window is huge... much bigger than any other wand Ive seen,   the new swivel looks a lot better than the old one,   stainless glide will bite just a bit more but still glide well which I do prefer a little bit of bite..     and Ive always really liked the head of the bentleys with the low profile.

Ive read 2 reviews from cleaners that say it has zero overspray due to the new splash guards     

Well, they definitely solved the bad manifold problem...not sure if plastic side shields are the best option, but if it works and is durable enough, cool.

The carbon fiber was a little heavy, so I would call the new design an improvement there as well.

The only thing I really don't like is the SS glide. I have never seen one that didn't snag carpet fibers at some point damaging carpets. It might not at first, but all it will take is the slightest dent in there and you are screwed.

Still, I am re-born on the swivel heads for commercial. I have a large retail store to clean Sunday night and being able to steer around the clothing racks instead of moving them around will be a huge time saver.

They do have a place....

if this is the same wand I saw at the expo, I have to warn you that the swivel is very loose, not sure if it can be adjusted ? It's very floppy.
I don't like heavy wands, with my massive vacuum, I need my wand to be as light as possible, that's why comparing the weight between the pmf ti and the challenger is already day and night in terms of the weight.
I agree with Rob on the stainless steel glide, I have a bad habit of resting the corner of the wand vac slot down as I'm turning the machine off, that will scratch the ss glide in no time, especially when you're cleaning a 50 grand oriental rugs, you don't want to pull the fibers out or you will be out 10 grand to have it repaired professionally.
I like the solution line that goes straight to the manifold and I also like the manifold and the flap guard.

No way would I ever go back to using a SS so called "glide"lol again, they scratch and chip the hell out of almost every hard surface they touch, so I'm done with that.  Why don't they be honest and call it what it is, a SS head, just like we all had before glides came along.

Well, because it's another cost cutting Mytee product, is why!!

mytee has some really cheap crap but also some nice well made stuff.

Their portables are pretty good, mytee speedster was always a good one back in the day. Their floor machines are pretty well made.

but other cheaper items are just chinese crap plastic

I think I read you can put a normal glide on if you want one.

I've really never seen anything from mytee I'd call well made, but I haven't seen the portables or floor machines you're talking about either.

I'm sure their floor machines are made by a major manufacture, with the mytee badging slapped on it, so I can see that being ok..

But I think it's when they try to have their own ideas, or whatever/where ever they steal them from lol, manufactured in China, is where things get iffy.............not that China can't put out quality, they can, but I just don't see that mytee is paying for that Quality. It seems they're just going with the cheapest manufacturing vendor, to probably increases profits over putting out a quality product.

I'm I wrong?.......I was once before, 28 million times.

The Mytee floor machine is actually a pretty good, I will vouch for that one. As for the China connection, they build anything to the specs of the buyer. If Mytee wants quality, they can build it. If Mytee wants cheap, they can sure do that as well.

The region really isn't the key factor any more. A ton of guitars come out of Korea these days for many brands, often built side by side to the premiere brands. The difference is in the specs supplied and the quality control measures accepted by the company which commissioned the work.

With this wand, why choose what looks to be plastic wings to control over-spray? Why not shape the head to form that contour out of SS in the first place? To place a teflon glide over their vac shoe, would just create a place for debris to get stuck and shut off vac flow since it is not an open slot....not a good compromise.

I am starting to warm up to my carbon fiber bentley relic, but I wish they would have gone with open vac, lip glides, and a fully formed head for the new wand.

I do believe you're right, Rob. Quality stuff can be built in China, and like you said proper supplied specs are needed,but I also believe good materials and craftsmanship are needed too..........and I think that may be really up to how much is willing to be spent for quality manufacturing?............if they're going with the cheapest vendor, it's unlikely it's going to be a quality made product.

My first thought on the side wings made me think lol, if the wand had the proper angle jets, that were correctly placed then there wouldn't be a need for wings?

It is the funnel shape of the bentley head that causes the over-spray issue. That design provides great lift, but sprays way too much water off the side of the wand...splashes onto everything. Maybe they could angle the manifold like a gentle smile or else fewer jets??

It is disappointing really. That head design provides excellent lift and recovery plus it fits under everything. All it needs is a better manifold design, open vac slot, and a good glide to be a hero. It just never seems to get there for me.

I'm still playing with this wand ( TI challenger ) and today I realized that when cleaning the corners ( behind doors ) I usually lift one side of the wand to spray the farthest corner, because it's swivel, it won't raise one side, I have to pick the whole wand up, now to be fair this is a problem that all swivel wands will have.
The water recovery on this challenger is VERY good, partly because the head is a replica of prochem's wand head, it's better than my pmf titanium, I doubt the mytee Bentley will beat this wand in terms of the recovery.
I would have to disagree with Rob in the bentley's plastic flap, I actually really like that design because it will minimize scratches ( I might change my mind if I see the wand in person, lol ) but I agree with Dave, if the jet size is the right size, it shouldn't have over sprays, however that flap design intrigues me.

Scratches are a good point, I can see that one. Still would rather have a better head design on the ends.

On commercial carpet, I wouldn't care about over-spray nor about scratching the walls with the wand. That is probably why I will be using the old Bentley Sunday night in the store.

Tony said that he's going to make a pin lock for the challenger to lock the swivel when not in need, I think that's a great idea, can't wait to see how it performs.

A pin lock is a very good idea.....and would be the only swivel out there that did that I know of.

Makes no sense to me why every swivel tool, doesn't have a lock.

The first time I used my Gecko hard surface wand, several years ago, I was thinking why can't I lock this thing.