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Has anyone tried LST from Chem Max

Post by Larry Henson on Sat Jun 25, 2016 2:04 pm

Just wondering if anyone has tried this product and if so what are your thoughts on it?

http://dev.chemmax.com/product_info.php?products_id=67

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Re: Has anyone tried LST from Chem Max

Post by milspec6 on Sat Jun 25, 2016 2:29 pm

I haven't personally, but I know the local rug shop swears by everything Chemmax sells.

I have used a few of their products and they have all been very good. Their salt remover / encap is the best product out there for removing ice melt.

I would wager that you would find the same results with that brand.
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Re: Has anyone tried LST from Chem Max

Post by Larry Henson on Sat Jun 25, 2016 2:46 pm

I've seem Paul Brown post about this cleaner for upholstery and I know he is an upper end cleaner in California. Claims there isn't much dwell time with the product and is safe on just about any fabric. I hate cleaning upholstery because it's time consuming but am open to anything that will speed the process up. He also incorporates steamers with a rag over the head and that looks intriguing but I'm full of Kool-Aid at this point....but yet it's still intriguing.

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Re: Has anyone tried LST from Chem Max

Post by milspec6 on Sat Jun 25, 2016 2:54 pm

Are you using the Sapphire Upholstery tool Larry?

That has been the biggest speed enhancer on upholstery for me.
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Re: Has anyone tried LST from Chem Max

Post by Larry Henson on Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:03 pm

Never had one. Bought the Mytee tool but honestly on soiled furniture I think the internal jet PMF tool works better... Am looking to purchase a Sapphire tool or the one from Roto-Vac .Kinda of like the Roto-Vac version with the trigger but I have a pump-out so it doesn't really matter with the continuous flow tool. Again, I drank the Kool-Aid with the Mytee tool.

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Post by milspec6 on Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:11 pm

What helps with the Sapphire tool is that you can clean in both directions. Doesn't really cut the job in half, but going over seat cushions is very quick.

On theater seats, it is a life saver.
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Re: Has anyone tried LST from Chem Max

Post by Larry Henson on Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:16 pm

I understand what you are saying Rob but I hear the biggest downfall with that tool is the adjustment valve and it being knocked around and affecting (or effecting ]the flow to the tool.

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Re: Has anyone tried LST from Chem Max

Post by Larry Henson on Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:32 pm

Here is my thinking on these tools based solely on the Mytee is that there is no flushing power like a tool that has a jet. I understand the concept with the several tools and maybe it's because Mytee doesn't have a vacuum relief and the majority of the water never touches the fabric for flushing or the point of water flow doesn't distribute evenly .Don't really know but it hasn't impressed me. Maybe other tools work better.


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Re: Has anyone tried LST from Chem Max

Post by milspec6 on Sat Jun 25, 2016 4:29 pm

There are actually a couple of issues with the Sapphire tool, but they can be overcome pretty easily. The needle valve is cheap, but once you replace with a better one with better flow control, it becomes a very good tool.

That lack of flushing power is actually a good thing as it prevents over-wetting and speeds up dry times.

I have been cleaning a lot of Micro-Suede furniture lately with it and despite the issues involved with that fabric, it has been working out very well.
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Re: Has anyone tried LST from Chem Max

Post by dp1 on Sat Jun 25, 2016 8:23 pm

I couldn't agree more with Rob, I've tried pmf internal and external upholstery tools, drimaster I and II, and sapphire, I currently have 3 sapphire tool and drimaster I ( hardly used ), I tried mytee and rotovac at the expo in Vegas and can't give a full review on those because it's only a few minutes of use but they don't feel solid for me, I would not mind trying rotovac longer if there is any loaner but wouldn't be interested in mytee due to the design, I feel there are several flaws that I'm not going to go further in here.
Larry, if you have a local cleaner that use sapphire, borrow it from him for a day or two, you'll never go back.
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Re: Has anyone tried LST from Chem Max

Post by Larry Henson on Sun Jun 26, 2016 6:32 am

Guess I'll have to give the Sapphire tool a try.

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Re: Has anyone tried LST from Chem Max

Post by milspec6 on Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:11 am

If you are patient Larry, you can often find on second hand pretty cheap. Some people just can't adapt from the big flusher tools.

I purchased mine during the first production run right off ebay for $175 after seeing it post about 2 am. The cleaner used it once and said that he hated it...the needle valve was closed too tight and was damaged. Simple fix and I have made a lot of money with that tool.

The only flaws that it has are the following:

1. Needle valve was pretty cheap and failed early (not sure if it is still)
2. Hose can come apart from the head (I ended up gluing mine on)
3. They do require frequent cleaning to clear lint balls (Super easy to do)
4. The trigger is pretty thin and can bend if you snag it on things.

None of the flaws are a big deal, just things to be aware of and some may not even be a problem anymore since my model. They really are a very good tool.
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Re: Has anyone tried LST from Chem Max

Post by eldiabloz on Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:22 pm

I couldn't agree more about the PMF internal uph. tool. Works great, lasts forever and you really do flush the fabric out thoroughly. I will not use plastic tools. My PMF is 15 years old and going strong.
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Re: Has anyone tried LST from Chem Max

Post by milspec6 on Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:57 pm

I was just at the local vendor today and looked at that LST product. We tried it out in the testing room and it does work quite well, but there is a caveat to it.....warning label.

This stuff doesn't want to be exposed to anything else. It recommends that you fully flush out your tank and sprayers prior to using which to me means that you will likely end up with plugged lines very quickly unless starting out with new equipment.

That may be a little paranoid on my part, but I have had some encap turn my machine plumbing to cement even after I thought that everything was flushed out well. I never forgot that, so warning labels like that concern me.
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Re: Has anyone tried LST from Chem Max

Post by Larry Henson on Sat Jul 09, 2016 12:35 pm

I understand what you are saying Rob but it intrigued me for using it with upholstery.
Don't know if you know who Paul Brown is but I watched some of his videos with this product cleaning upholstery and it made me curious. Thanks for the input.

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Post by Larry Henson on Sat Jul 09, 2016 12:45 pm

@eldiabloz wrote:I couldn't agree more about the PMF internal uph. tool. Works great, lasts forever and you really do flush the fabric out thoroughly. I will not use plastic tools. My PMF is 15 years old and going strong.

Thought about taking my trigger valve off of the PMF tool and putting an adjustable one like on the Sapphire or Mytee tool in its place but you would have to wear gloves because the metal would get to hot verses the plastic tools.
I love the feel of the Mytee tool but it doesn't flow water evenly out of the chambers.

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