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Post by milspec6 on Mon May 15, 2017 11:08 am

I have a fantastic opportunity to be the hero of the year this Thursday with a new customer. They are the neighbors of lady that I cleaned for a couple of weeks ago and that customer showered my work with praise....even told them about my special designed tools like some paid commercial endorsement (some do listen to my rants) Laughing

Here is the situation. One, the husband got some grease on his shoe and tracked a little from the garage to the bedroom. They already had the 2 large franchises in the area try to clean it up, but they failed. I guess a disaster company and the "special water" people don't know how to get out a little grease Shocked I inspected it and removed a few inches of it with just a terry towel and some prespray to demonstrate the potential results....so easy (it was nylon for pete's sake)..

It is the second part that has the greatest potential. Since installing new wall-to-wall carpet in their basement, the wife has been developing skin rashes when she spends any time in the basement. It has been 6 months and she still can't go anywhere near that part of the house. I tested the room for mVOC levels and they were normal with no odors of any kind.

This is an upper class home with over 2,200 sqft of carpet in the basement alone so the husband does not want to rip out the new carpet. They are hoping that a cleaning might be beneficial in solving her issues.

The carpet in question is a PET polyster made by Mohawk and also includes a scotchguard layer from the factory. She has never had any issues with polyester allergies, so I am struggling to see the connection. I do know that Mohawk SmartStrand fiber (corn based) tends to off-gas for months and has triggered allergy issues, but I haven't heard the same complaint with the EverStrand PET fibers.

I want to drive a stake through the hearts of those franchise companies by succeeding where they failed as well as solve this expensive issue in their basement. The first part should be easy as both of them left their carpet wet for 3 days, but the allergy issue is another matter.

Has anyone run into this before with Mohawk EverStrand or any PET carpets?
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Post by milspec6 on Mon May 15, 2017 11:51 am

The more I think about it, I am suspect of the fluoropolymer as the culprit. I have always refused to apply that stuff due to potential chemical sensitivities and this might be an example of someone that is sensitive.

There might not be much hope for that carpet sticking around.
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Post by Matt; My carpet cleaner on Mon May 15, 2017 5:18 pm

@milspec6 wrote:The more I think about it, I am suspect of the fluoropolymer as the culprit.  I have always refused to apply that stuff due to potential chemical sensitivities and this might be an example of someone that is sensitive.

There might not be much hope for that carpet sticking around.

That was my first thought

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Post by milspec6 on Mon May 15, 2017 7:58 pm

I spoke with the owner and he confirmed that the carpet came with the protector and that he paid the last cleaner to spray the furniture in the basement as well with scotchguard.

Right now they are not happy that they may have done it to themselves AND paid a lot to do it. I suggested that they pass it by their allergist before our appointment.
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Post by dp1 on Tue May 16, 2017 7:37 pm

If you steam clean them with the TNT, you should be able to strip that stuffs out of there by cranking the heat up a bit ( 220 - 230 ).
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Post by milspec6 on Tue May 16, 2017 8:17 pm

I thought about that, but from what I understand Scotchguard can handle high heat and ph of up to 10 without trouble. I could go at it with a high ph cleaner spiked around 12-13 and really crank the heat, but I don't think the carpet will fare that well....likely turn yellow.
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Post by dp1 on Tue May 16, 2017 8:40 pm

Use power burst ( ph 11 ) and don't use too much heat ( no more than 230 ), and extract it slow, it should strip them, you'll be the hero dancing
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Post by milspec6 on Tue May 16, 2017 9:10 pm

I will be discussing it with them tomorrow. I planned on suggesting multiple cleanings as a way to gradually remove this treatment without damaging the fibers...your suggestion is a good one as well and will be considered.

She dealt with this problem for 6 months and her husband had reached the point of believing it was all in her head, so if the theory is correct...they should both be happy in the end.
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Post by milspec6 on Thu May 18, 2017 4:50 pm

It was an interesting day cleaning for these folks. The wife was at work, so I don't know if it will do her any good with the allergy, but the husband gave me a 30% tip.

I felt pretty proud of that tip until he slipped the trash truck a $100 to pick up a small roll of extra carpet. Now I feel cheated.

This guy was very interesting to speak with as he is in the "cleaning" business himself. He is a VP of a large group that does industrial production cleanings like production beer vats as an example. He gave me some tips about some really interesting new developments in chemistry that I think might find its way into our field. Exciting stuff that I will share once I meet with his development experts....he promised to get me their emails and allow me to be a fly on the wall as it develops.

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Post by dp1 on Mon May 22, 2017 11:04 pm

Should've grabbed that $ 100 bill and take the extra roll of carpets for projects huh ?
What did you use to clean ?
Did you ever follow up with them with the wife's allergy ? I'm curious.
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Post by milspec6 on Tue May 23, 2017 10:11 am

DP, I wish I would have thought about that....that would have been the easiest $100 in history.

I use Procyon on all the smartstrand carpets and those with minimal soil loads. With here chemical reaction I decided that using anything stronger might be a negative.

I didn't follow up on this one yet as I don't know if I should. The husband is convinced that it is all her head even when I pointed out my theory regarding the scotch-guard.
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