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Ozone Water
I will be providing updates as I move ahead on my plans to incorporate an ozone infused water to my cleaning method. There is a local company that invented a system they call "Viriditec Sanitation Solution" that looks to have almost twice the reactive power of peroxide without the ph shifts. Although it can only be used at low pressure and temperature, the combination of S/O with this reactive power might make the ultimate green cleaning solution...especially on tile and urine damaged carpet.
I will know more in a couple of days.
http://foodsafetytechnology.com/Viriditec%20Presentation.pdf
I will know more in a couple of days.
http://foodsafetytechnology.com/Viriditec%20Presentation.pdf
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Sounds cool....can't wait to hear bout it.
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Is ozone water the same type of water zerorez is using for their cleaning water ?
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I spoke with a person this past week who knows for certain what Zerorez is using, but he has the same attorney so he couldn't tell me what it was. Â What he did say was that the process is effective and that the public is wrong on what we think that it is.
If you listen to their adds, they claim all the same government endorsements (FDA, EPA, etc) as the Viriditec solution claims and I did get a little smirk when I asked about Zerorez and ozone water. Â Not saying that it is the same (probably isn't), but it must be close.
Fighting fire with fire is the plan. Â If I can adopt the benefits of what that company is using without the negatives of their business practices, I will be staged for a huge year in 2014. Â At least, that is my present theory....we all know what happened with my UV light theory, so we shall see.Â
If you listen to their adds, they claim all the same government endorsements (FDA, EPA, etc) as the Viriditec solution claims and I did get a little smirk when I asked about Zerorez and ozone water. Â Not saying that it is the same (probably isn't), but it must be close.
Fighting fire with fire is the plan. Â If I can adopt the benefits of what that company is using without the negatives of their business practices, I will be staged for a huge year in 2014. Â At least, that is my present theory....we all know what happened with my UV light theory, so we shall see.Â
Re: Ozone Water
I had the chance to demo a portable unit today...I was impressed. It is a rather small device, but it was excellent on tile that sees a ton of traffic, even the grout lines were clean using nothing more than a shop vac.
Being a small fish, I haven't been able to secure one for myself just yet, but I am working on it. I will post some pics / video of the device once I get one on contract. In the meantime, I have to say that it is looking like a great decision!! Â
Being a small fish, I haven't been able to secure one for myself just yet, but I am working on it. I will post some pics / video of the device once I get one on contract. In the meantime, I have to say that it is looking like a great decision!! Â
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I just found out that the inventor is out of town until Monday, so I can't get my hands on a machine until next week...sort of disappointed by that. Â So, I decided to leave you with some pictures after using the machine belonging to a client on tile.
This tile gets a ton of foot traffic in a busy commercial building. Â All that was used were the infused water, a deck brush for the areas along the walls, a shop vac for recovery, and a squegee. Â No tile spinners, no grout brush, not heat, no pressure, and no chemicals.
This is a tile area that was cleaned on one side to show the before-after view.
This is the before and after for one of the hallways.
Showing the dirty work
Think about this, no chemicals and no spinners. Â Nobody was worried about burns since it was using room temp. water and the results were pretty good.
This tile gets a ton of foot traffic in a busy commercial building. Â All that was used were the infused water, a deck brush for the areas along the walls, a shop vac for recovery, and a squegee. Â No tile spinners, no grout brush, not heat, no pressure, and no chemicals.
This is a tile area that was cleaned on one side to show the before-after view.
This is the before and after for one of the hallways.
Showing the dirty work
Think about this, no chemicals and no spinners. Â Nobody was worried about burns since it was using room temp. water and the results were pretty good.
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How many gallons were applied and with what a pump up?
Specs on how much ozone the machine puts out?
How many gallons can it make in an hour?
Is there a cool down time on the machine?
Can it run constantly?
Cost?
Size?
Specs on how much ozone the machine puts out?
How many gallons can it make in an hour?
Is there a cool down time on the machine?
Can it run constantly?
Cost?
Size?
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Re: Ozone Water
OneBlueSummer wrote:How many gallons were applied and with what a pump up?
Specs on how much ozone the machine puts out?
How many gallons can it make in an hour?
Is there a cool down time on the machine?
Can it run constantly?
Cost?
Size?
The machine sits on wheels and you connect a garden hose up to it (in this case anyway) with the water just flowing out at same pressure. In this case, it was just sprayed onto the floor with a built-in spray wand. It can be designed for just about any gph, according to the inventor, but this one was around 300 gph according to the owner.
I didn't notice any cool down measures needed and it was running for about 15 minutes continuous on this job. They also run in different sizes, but the portable one that you see on the website is not much bigger than a large microwave. Costs range for the portable from about $100 - $300 per month on a lease with 2 year warranty depending upon the features desired.
I expect to get more of the fine details when the guy returns next week and I get one back to the shop, but I hope this helps give you an idea of what the potential is on this device.
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Mo wrote:Was it slow going or as quick as a spinner
The infused water just melted the grime in less than 5 minutes, it was impressive. I think that if you followed up with a spinner instead of the shop vac, you would be out the door faster than ever before.
It does give off that "ozone smell" for a short while, but it is far better than the strong acridic odor that many tile cleaners create.
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milspec6 wrote:
I didn't notice any cool down measures needed and it was running for about 15 minutes continuous on this job. Â They also run in different sizes, but the portable one that you see on the website is not much bigger than a large microwave. Â Costs range for the portable from about $100 - $300 per month on a lease with 2 year warranty depending upon the features desired.
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Sounds exciting!! Â
Did I miss the link to this website you mentioned above? Â Â
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Re: Ozone Water
Pretty cool stuff though I just couldn't justify that big heavy costly thing when these exist
http://www.amazon.com/Pure-Laundry-Ozone-Washer-System/dp/B00AUWTYXM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1386733032&sr=8-2&keywords=ozone+generator+washer
It would be great to fill up your sprayer of choice with.
Though I would still just get the even smaller one for $70 and just do a gallon at a time that way it's nice and fresh and No need for any more than a gallon or 2 per job.
http://www.amazon.com/Aqua-6-Ozone-Generator-Ozonator-Purifier/dp/B001IYQ1LY/ref=pd_sim_sbs_hg_4
http://www.amazon.com/Pure-Laundry-Ozone-Washer-System/dp/B00AUWTYXM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1386733032&sr=8-2&keywords=ozone+generator+washer
It would be great to fill up your sprayer of choice with.
Though I would still just get the even smaller one for $70 and just do a gallon at a time that way it's nice and fresh and No need for any more than a gallon or 2 per job.
http://www.amazon.com/Aqua-6-Ozone-Generator-Ozonator-Purifier/dp/B001IYQ1LY/ref=pd_sim_sbs_hg_4
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Yes... good point, I am sure the offgassing might not be to good for a fish tank or plants. But niether is cat pee mold!
I don't think it would be enough to actually harm anything but is something to use sparingly around sensitive people and youngins and puppies. Haven't ever heard of a pet ever dieing from ozone exposure but if they barred there head in it for a couple minutes it's might start hurting the lungs. Using fans in conjunction would be smart.
I don't think it would be enough to actually harm anything but is something to use sparingly around sensitive people and youngins and puppies. Haven't ever heard of a pet ever dieing from ozone exposure but if they barred there head in it for a couple minutes it's might start hurting the lungs. Using fans in conjunction would be smart.
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Re: Ozone Water
Davey Cracker wrote:milspec6 wrote:
I didn't notice any cool down measures needed and it was running for about 15 minutes continuous on this job. Â They also run in different sizes, but the portable one that you see on the website is not much bigger than a large microwave. Â Costs range for the portable from about $100 - $300 per month on a lease with 2 year warranty depending upon the features desired.
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Sounds exciting!! Â
Did I miss the link to this website you mentioned above? Â Â
Sorry, should have posted the link.
http://bcgsolutionsllc.com/products.shtml
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Ozone in the air can kill at the right concentration. I think that the process keeps the ozone trapped in the bubbles so that it reacts more to the surface than becoming airborne.
When I do odor jobs with ozone, I will sometimes get a sore throat from just moving in and out of the room if I fail to get it ventilated well enough. I didn't suffer any of that working with the tile, so I don't think that there would be much of a concern.
It is however pretty corrosive, so stainless steel is the metal of choice when working with it. The built-in sprayer tip had to be SS or else it would corrode badly after a few uses.
These are all great questions, I will have them addressed in-person when the guy gets back to town.
When I do odor jobs with ozone, I will sometimes get a sore throat from just moving in and out of the room if I fail to get it ventilated well enough. I didn't suffer any of that working with the tile, so I don't think that there would be much of a concern.
It is however pretty corrosive, so stainless steel is the metal of choice when working with it. The built-in sprayer tip had to be SS or else it would corrode badly after a few uses.
These are all great questions, I will have them addressed in-person when the guy gets back to town.
Re: Ozone Water
OneBlueSummer wrote:Pretty cool stuff though I just couldn't justify that big heavy costly thing when these exist
http://www.amazon.com/Pure-Laundry-Ozone-Washer-System/dp/B00AUWTYXM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1386733032&sr=8-2&keywords=ozone+generator+washer
It would be great to fill up your sprayer of choice with.
Though I would still just get the even smaller one for $70 and just do a gallon at a time that way it's nice and fresh and No need for any more than a gallon or 2 per job.
http://www.amazon.com/Aqua-6-Ozone-Generator-Ozonator-Purifier/dp/B001IYQ1LY/ref=pd_sim_sbs_hg_4
You might be right, I am not certain what the big difference would be, but this guy is the inventor and it comes after a ton of research money so there might be something that we are missing. I agree that in most cases, all you would really need is a few gallons at a time in a pump sprayer or multisprayer....well, actually, the multisprayer pump might run into trouble with the corrosive aspects. I guess that is another question that I need to ask.
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I actually have an ozone device on my cimex. I don't remember who came up with the idea, but I bought the machine used with this setup.
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The ozone passes through the water. Ozone is O3 and has a very unstable oxygen atom which when passed through the water attaches to the h2O and combines to make h2O2 which is peroxide. This is why many hot tubs etc. use ozone instead of chlorine.
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I'm actually kind of excited to hear more about this. I looked into this a number of years ago but it got put on the back burner.
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I wish I had more to report, but I have yet to meet with the company. The CEO was supposed to contact me once he was back from a business trip, but I haven't heard anything yet.
My hope is to have a device this weekend to avoid the holiday delays, maybe Friday.
My hope is to have a device this weekend to avoid the holiday delays, maybe Friday.
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My meeting is set for Thursday, so I will post an update afterwards. Hopefully, I will have the full picture available for your review.
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Please let me know how I can check out something like this. I am definitely interested.
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I will post as much information as I can after the meeting. I really think that this will be big step in this industry in about 5-10 years. It is in use in Germany and other parts of Europe now and just like the CRBs and encaps which were big in Europe long before it showed up in North America, I expect it to be a potential game changer here as well.
Take Encap cleaning for example, they are often boosted with peroxides, right? Well, liquid ozone works 300x faster than bleach at sanitizing and will have the stain removal effects of a concentrated oxidizer well beyond the strongest peroxides. That potential alone can be a huge difference between you and your competition.
I'm getting ahead of myself, maybe I am all wrong about this plan. I should hold off on speculation until I have all the details, but right now it sounds exciting to me.
Take Encap cleaning for example, they are often boosted with peroxides, right? Well, liquid ozone works 300x faster than bleach at sanitizing and will have the stain removal effects of a concentrated oxidizer well beyond the strongest peroxides. That potential alone can be a huge difference between you and your competition.
I'm getting ahead of myself, maybe I am all wrong about this plan. I should hold off on speculation until I have all the details, but right now it sounds exciting to me.
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