Poll on code of conduct

You do what you have to do Bill. I wish you and your family the best.

Mo wrote:You do what you have to do Bill. I wish you and your family the best.

Thanks Mo, you have a great bunch of guys here and this board fills a big hole that is needed. I just don't participate enough to be the one to cause any drama. Ryan is right. I will still check in from time to time.

A couple of questions I have about how this went down that should be answered. Which was the cause of the harsh commentary from the developer of the floater research program.

First, Bill, I follow your postings and have a great deal of respect for you and the knowledgable information you share. It is obvious that you are a veteran in the trade, and us young bucks can draw some valuable knowledge.

1. Was Joe consulted about revealing the gathered feed back/research from the users of the zipper before the program ended? If so why was that decision made with out his approval?

2. Isn't it only correct to allow the director of the floater program to decide when the time is to make all feed back public?

3. Is there information that is being held back as to why Joe was not involved in the diversion, if that be the case?

4. Is this an effort to get the gathered information out early as to help Eric move the Zipper at a quicker pace?

5. Is it fair to ANY promoter of a program on this board to have their rules and guidelines usurped with out consulting them first by ANY member on this board?

6. Is it ok if I have more Q?

My only problem is when you have some one only come here just to promote an event or product, Does not participate. Just the hit and run.

What you have here is guys who cant be bought off by a manufacturer

Just remember the God Father when that guy ask the Don for a favor
Some day you may be asked to return the favor.

just want to say thanks to Mo

I'm a little slow, but this is how I see things and I may be totally wrong but here goes.
It seems that Joe has been trying to help Erik for awhile being asked his opinion/ direction on things. He has insider information that we don't and maybe don't need to know ie. where he's made changes to the materials used to keep cost down and profits up.
As for the beer guy thing . I had to think on this awhile I said I was slow, but now I see if you use the cheaper materials and get manufactured out of country then you have sided with the money trail which is fine that's business. But you can't compare your self to the beer guy he wasn't willing to change and take the cheaper way too make the fast money. So if Erik uses a cheaper materials like plastic instead of a metal meteral both will work but we all know which is better.
Now the floater/loaner program.
Made I missed something, but if Joe own's the zipper then he should able to let who ever he wants use it . He is using it for marketing and getting people's reactions to it good or bad unbiased passing the results to the manufacture hopefully helping to better the probuct with
free input from the consumer. That's my thought on that sorry Mo.
Now to the point of this thread.
Both Joe and Erik are owner/manufacturing companies you wood thing that they could control them selves better and use the preview bar before dropping the F bomb which both gentlemen did in front of your customer's would want your customer's to come into your store and talk like that with other customer's present I think not. And yet I know how things can get in the heat of the moment, but nether of you have said I'M SORRY for my outburst not for your opinion that I respect as I hope you do the other's and mine, for loosing control of the keyboard.
I have noticed that Erik has not been in on this thread. Was he just steering the pot and running after all.
Well that's my take if I got it all wrong then I'm sorry. But it is my opinion and opinion's are like butts we all have one some just stink more than others LOL.

A good friend of mine, due to cancer, had her colon and rectum removed. At a social gathering someone said, "Opinions are like buttholes, everybody has one."

She said, "I don't." Lol!