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that plastic waste tank thing

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Post by milspec6 Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:30 pm

I really like the looks of those projects, but I do hope you are wearing a mask when you craft those things. Fine plastic doesn't like to exit the lungs Shocked 
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Post by OneBlueSummer Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:57 pm

ever build a fish tank?
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Post by Cjcann Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:24 pm

My Masterblend El Diablo waste tank is leaking at the welded seams once again. This tank was replaced by MasterBlend 2 years ago for this issue. They just can't seem to get their sh*t together when building waste tanks, stainless steel is to brittle in my opinion, good selling point, bad execution. I wonder if plastic is a viable replacement option? What are those panels made from?
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Post by milspec6 Sun Mar 23, 2014 1:40 pm

The El Diablo that I used for awhile had the same problem with the tank. I don't think it was the stainless steel's fault, just poor welding.

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Post by Cjcann Mon Mar 24, 2014 6:18 am

El Diablo's are pretty good machines. EZ to work on, economical to run. But unfortunately I would not buy another one because of the Stainless waste tank. My local dist. told me this was going to be a problem because of the SS. He said the welds are brittle with SS. He called it. He was approached by Masterblend to sell their units and told them" not with ss tanks, their will be problems. They have a newer Heat exchange unit, too bad they can't make a tank that won't leak. I will post a video of this for others looking to purchase an El Diablo by Masterblend.
PS. their tech support is second to none! If you have a problem they will talk you through it.
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Post by Mo Mon Mar 24, 2014 6:26 am

Sorry to hear about the tank Diablo. Any way you can a good welder redo the whole tank for you?
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Post by Andy Mc Mon Mar 24, 2014 11:58 am

Just bad welding, that's all.

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Post by Fuzzsucker Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:06 pm

They ok welding on those. They should have installed corner supports. Also they have knuckle vac relief valves mounted on the tank which are notorious for getting out of adjustment. Those valves need to be installed directly on the blower plumbing and need oiling and adjusting very regularly. Putting them on the tank is causing the tank to bow in before the relief gets a chance to open. The constant flexing wears those welds out fast.
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Post by Davey Cracker Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:22 pm

NO NO NO LOL

The SS is NOT the prob, and I doubt the welds are to blame either.

I'd put money on (not having yet seen one inside), it's not properly designed with enough bracing to minimize the flexing when under load.

Take a pic of the inside of the tank, and shoot a short video of the tanks movement when capping and uncapping the vac hose with your hand.......post those here, and I'll tell you for sure.

And it's a real easy fix for a fabricator or welder........just add the bracing needed to keep it from flexing so much, and you'll never a problem again.

I've got 22 years and 10,000 hours on a Stainless tank, and never had an issue.  wink 

Sure derailed the hell out of the plastic tank thread, with the El Diablo
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Post by Davey Cracker Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:23 pm

BTW

Where does crack and leak at? Same place on both tanks??
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Post by Cjcann Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:51 pm

Different places on the welds.
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Post by milspec6 Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:03 pm

Funny thing is that it didn't seem to happen on the older units, just the newer ones. It might be a lack of supports, but it comes down to a quality of build issue to me. Either weak welds or else they reduced the supports to save money, both are negatives to the end user.

I still like those machines, but a leaky tank is not a good thing.
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Post by Davey Cracker Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:05 pm

eldiabloz wrote:Different places on the welds.

Lika sez  wink ..............

Take a pic of the inside of the tank, and shoot a short video of the tanks movement when capping and uncapping the vac hose with your hand.......post those here, and I'll tell you for sure.
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Post by milspec6 Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:05 pm

It would be interesting to get a view of the tank inside to draw a conclusion on the cause. The one that I used was just re-welded where there were 2 splits...never happened again and it is still in the field for another cleaner.
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