Butler APO

Anyone with a Butler using the factory auto pump-out?

I decided to get rid of my jerry rigged pump-out and found a factory one off a junked unit. Everything was there including some nasty hoses, but the pump was frozen. I have since replaced the pump with a slightly smaller jabsco water puppy, but the wiring is an issue. All the components appear there, but there are extra wires open ended and I am not sure what they were used for.

Seems straightforward, pump and a switch with a 2-prong plug for the DC outlet on the Butler. I don't see why there is extra wiring off the switch unless there is another component that I am missing.

So, how about it, anyone have a photo available of the underneath of a Butler APO...it would save me some time rather than identifying the unnecessay wires and capping them off later. Also, anyone know what brand of pump they used from the factory? I couldn't find any markings, but it sure looks like a Jabsco only a little larger body and orange.

Did you ever get this figured out?
I'm wondering if it was setup to work 2 ways. 1) hooked to a float switch in the tank to activate it 2) second set of wires running to a switch where you could manually turn it on or off to empty the tank without using the dump valve at the end of the day. Just a guess. PM or email Mark Saiger he runs Butlers.

Ya'll need to contact DUO Joe:

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STERLING HEIGHTS, MI 48313
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Thanks guys, you have me pointed in the right direction..

Hey there. Sorry I haven't seen this post to respond. I have a pump out motor sitting on the bench. Will see if I can see what it is. Also, what year butler. They made just small changes in past few years.

The pump out is run by a float switch in the tank. Switch to turn on power to the pump and fuse system in back of van is on front panel. There is a fuse on the apo block typically as well as another switch. If you can take a pic of what you have and post, I will try and figure out what you have and what you might need.

Mark Saiger
www.saigers.com

The machine is a '99 model, but I don't know the year on the APO. Underneath there is a breaker, the 3-position switch, and then some sort of relay next to that. The old pump was connected by 2 wires only and the rest were just open ended and cut. All told, there are 6 unterminated wires that I need to figure out.

My plan was to just install minus a float assembly, leave the switch on manual, and then just control it via the power switch on the panel. I have the larger waste tank, so I never run out of space on a normal day, but it is handy to drain the tank via an APO in the winter back in my garage.

I will go out and get some pictures....

Sorry I haven't got back to you on this.  Have been busy.  Mine is still working and a stock unit .  I don't know much about electrical but I know the 2 wires just complete the circuit loop.  I know that if you let the pump out sit and run dry it will take out the impellor, so my experience is if you can keep the float switch, it does help.  

I also looked for my old pump motor and couldn't find it yet.  Had a couple of big projects going right now and just haven't had time to do more looking.  I know if you call Butler, they can share info as to how the circuit works for this.  

Mark Saiger
www.saigers.com

Thanks Mark, I figure the jabsco is a bilge pump so it should be able to survive dry times without damage, but an impeller is only about 30 bucks anyway. I guess I will need to re-think the float now and put this project on the shelf until things start to slow down again.

I am still curious if anyone can identify that orange pump, I can't find any markings.

I have a small water line running to mine with a solenoid tied in with the float switch in the tank. When the float switch activates the pump it allows water to flow into the pump so there are no dry starts and saving the impeller.

Thanks Larry! I just remembered that I have a new redhat solenoid sitting on the shelf, so that looks like a great idea.

When things quiet done, I see a fun weekend project coming. Sure will make things easier to drain this winter.