LIES-DECEPTION Chem-Dry Cleaner Video "Chem-Dry vs Steam Cleaning methods"

This takes the cake!!

"Chem-Dry vs Steam Cleaning methods"  AHHHH WAT!?!

Do you think this guy really believes he's doing something different than "Steam Cleaning" aka HWE while he stands there on video bad mouthing "Steam Cleaning", or is he just so oblivious/uninformed he's really thinks it's different?........or maybe he's just had so much smoke blown up his a$$ by the C-D Corp. he believes what he's saying?  

All marking Deception so the consumer believes that Chem-Dry is unique and better/safer I think.

I mean $hit, I have an RX20 and I can clean carpets at 100psi (If I wanted jobs to take 4 times as long, not clean as well, and have carpets dry quicker), so I guess that makes me 'Chem-Dry' but without the cost of the overpriced equipment they make you buy and the franchise fees!....sure my RX isn't the special Battleship Gray color C-D model with the sticker on it, but common, I don't really need that do I?!
I'll run a Diet 7-up rinse to get the "carbonation", Diet because it doesn't leave a sticky residue, and 7-up because it's clear and carbonated.  


What do you guys think about this video?

That is laughable! An Rx-20 using a carbonated extraction agent like soap free makes you a Chem-dry hero?

I wonder how many of those guys secretly crank up the psi and add their own special agents? I would guess nearly 100%.

Wonder why they got away from their original method? Because it sucks!!!
Isn't this fraud, condemning HWE but using it.
Have to confess I didn't watch the whole video but have seen their advertisements.

I remember learning in the iicrc classes that chem dry cleaning will void your carpet warranty

ACpower1 wrote:I remember learning in the iicrc classes that chem dry cleaning will void your carpet warranty

Spose that *may* have been true at one time, but can't see how anymore since the manufactures recommend HWE and that's what C-D now does, since being bought out by Home Depot Corp.

milspec6 wrote:That is laughable!  An Rx-20 using a carbonated extraction agent like soap free makes you a Chem-dry hero?

I wonder how many of those guys secretly crank up the psi and add their own special agents?  I would guess nearly 100%.

I was told the TM units C-D makes their franchisees buy/use have a regulated/limited pressure of 100psi..........I can't verify if that's fact, so I'm not positive it is totally true.  

Very, very laughable! We're not using HWE or steam as they describe it, we're just applying 200 deg water with our special cleaning agent in it to your carpet and extracting it. I guess there's no prespray or agitation involved.

C D unit are regulated to 125 psi anymore and the pressure relief opens on their chem. tanks.
As for the video what I seen was a man who believes in his equip. Whether is way is better or not doesn't matter. I have my opinion about the CD units but I work on them and if they didn't work then they wouldn't be in business. I don't knock a man for trying to make a honest living key being honest and working hard.

Smoke and mirrors. We all work off of it at times. So more than others.

ACE Services wrote:C D unit are regulated to 125 psi anymore and the pressure relief opens on their chem. tanks.
As for the video what I seen was a man who believes in his equip. Whether is way is better or not doesn't matter. I have my opinion about the CD units but I work on them and if they didn't work then they wouldn't be in business. I don't knock a man for trying to make a honest living key being honest and working hard.

Well stated there Ace. I don't think any of us are knocking the guy as much as the process / equipment. One could clean carpet with a brush and a bucket if they had too, but the limits would be obvious. I think most of those franchises work because of advertising strength and not by nature of the process or equipment. Just like McDonalds is the number one burger franchise in the US, but is also rated near last in quality by consumers. CD works because of the name and marketing saavy, but the quality of the burger is still poor.

Take that guy and provide him with less restrictive tools, and he will be a success on his own...without paying franchise fees.

Davey Cracker wrote:....or maybe he's just had so much smoke blown up his a$$ by the C-D Corp. he believes what he's saying?  

This is it, just like those who believe everything the iicrc ever told them.

by ACE Services on Sat Nov 23, 2013 7:43 pm

C D unit are regulated to 125 psi anymore and the pressure relief opens on their chem. tanks.
As for the video what I seen was a man who believes in his equip. Whether is way is better or not doesn't matter. I have my opinion about the CD units but I work on them and if they didn't work then they wouldn't be in business. I don't knock a man for trying to make a honest living key being honest and working hard.

Well put ... Im with ya!

Well said ACE.

It IS frustrating when you see their marketing. No need for it imo. Whatever.

I've met a few CD guys and they're just like other cleaners; mostly just trying to make a living.
One thing they got on you 'steamers' they got damn good with the pad method (pad+carbonated encap).
They don't need padwork much with their hwe, but it's another tool they do have. DO YOU?

Joe Bristor wrote:Well said ACE.

It IS frustrating when you see their marketing.  No need for it imo.  Whatever.

I've met a few CD guys and they're just like other cleaners; mostly just trying to make a living.
One thing they got on you 'steamers' they got damn good with the pad method (pad+carbonated encap).
They don't need padwork much with their hwe, but it's another tool they do have. DO YOU?  

Yes, I do have that tool, and then some that C-D doesn't have!  

I'm not starting this thread to knock the guy down really, more really to call BS on what C-D claims their unique process is. Which now is nothing more than low psi HWE. It's just funny they make it sound so different.....I guess that's an advantage of marketing power/dollars.  

Oh I KNOW You do Dave, as do most RCs I serve.
I was speaking to - cleaners they refer to as 'steamers' - the hacks of our trade who give CD good reason to knock us.

Carpet cleaners are an interesting bunch. Several ways to skin a cat, but carpet guys will swear that they're the only ones that know how to do it and are the absolute best.

Seems to be a lot of attacking in this industry. I find it refreshing to find a group of guys willing to be civil.

I find the cleaners who are rude and knock other peoples methods, knock portable guys etc are actually the ones hurting for business

im booked for the rest of 2013, why do i care what CD does my customers arent calling them

I dont care if you clean with a portable, a rug doctor, a bissell if your out working hard and trying hard then good for you.

I am very aware of the C-D equipment, methods, and training (I legally can't say how because I'm not interested in being hassled again in this lifetime...). It is a good process and they do a great job of making the franchisees drink the "Cool Aide". However I do feel very sad for the guy in the video for two reasons. First, as much as the guy in the video believes in the system and equipment - he could purchase similar but better equipment and similar but better supplies at a lower cost, and not have the added overhead of the franchise fees and franchise regulations. Second, I am sure it sucks for him having to compete against other c-d franchisees in the same franchise area (if not yet he can be assured that they will assign additional franchises in his area).

Good stuff, Joe!

Good for us, bad for them I guess!  

That would really suck to buy a franchise, that included a exclusive territory, only to then have them change the rules down the road and sell more franchises in your territory.

carpetdaddy wrote:I am very aware of the C-D equipment, methods, and training (I legally can't say how because I'm not interested in being hassled again in this lifetime...). It is a good process and they do a great job of making the franchisees drink the "Cool Aide". However I do feel very sad for the guy in the video for two reasons. First, as much as the guy in the video believes in the system and equipment - he could purchase similar but better equipment and similar but better supplies at a lower cost, and not have the added overhead of the franchise fees and franchise regulations. Second, I am sure it sucks for him having to compete against other c-d franchisees in the same franchise area (if not yet he can be assured that they will assign additional franchises in his area).

I checked my area and found 10 C-D franchises within about a 15 mile radius with two of them only 1.3 miles apart! That can't be beneficial for any franchise owner.

ODIN wrote:

Boy that Kirby is going to need a lot of polishing after that one:bounce: 

As was said, there are many ways to skin the cat and I don't care what weapon you choose to bring to the fight. I just want to see an honest, hard-working person wielding it. As long as what you say is honest, based upon your geniune beliefs, then you stand tall in my book. The rest of them snake oil sellers deserve to be out of business...if only the customers were more educated.

Did you know you can paint your house with a Kirby:D

Milspec, you have no idea. It seems like the C-D goal is to sell as many franchises as possible without regard to the high potential failure rate of franchisees. For those who fail usually because there are so many franchises in a given territory, they are pretty screwed for a good three years due to a very restrictive non-compete agreement. C-D is very happy to bring suit during the non-compete period, and harass after the non-compete period.

carpetdaddy wrote:Milspec, you have no idea. It seems like the C-D goal is to sell as many franchises as possible without regard to the high potential failure rate of franchisees. For those who fail usually because there are so many franchises in a given territory, they are pretty screwed for a good three years due to a very restrictive non-compete agreement. C-D is very happy to bring suit during the non-compete period, and harass after the non-compete period.

And my parents told me that vampires weren't real...they were wrong. C-D guys really do have to work extra hard to make it then, hang tough guys and see you on the board when your 3 year sentence is up. 

I've heard that the older franchises have been allowed to continue low moisture cleaning.

I personally could never flourish in a system were everything is dictated to you. But there is a CD in town that has been around for a very long time two generations in fact.