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Post by Mo Fri May 22, 2015 7:42 am

Tony sent me some pics of the new hard surface tool. It comes with a replaceable squeege and brush head option?  He going to be sending it to me so that we can take a closer look at at it. The cleaners lounge price $199.00

I have always used a spinner never used one these style hard surface tools. So is one of the advantages is that its smaller and it easier to get into to places the spinner doesn't? What are some of the other advantages over a spinner? The price is right that's for dang sure

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Post by dp1 Fri May 22, 2015 8:08 am

Looks good to me at less than half price of gecko which is ridiculous in my opinion, if it works good which I don't see why not, it spits and sucks, not that complicated.
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Post by Mo Fri May 22, 2015 9:09 am

DP do you use a spinner or hard surface tool?
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Post by dp1 Fri May 22, 2015 1:08 pm

I've been using spinner in the last 9 months or so, before that we use wand. Spinner is much better in cleaning performance.
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Post by Mo Fri May 22, 2015 2:43 pm

More coverage area and better recovery?
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Post by Mo Fri May 22, 2015 3:26 pm

It looks like Tony has been busy building hard surface tools 

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Post by Davey Cracker Fri May 22, 2015 4:06 pm

dp1 wrote:I've been using spinner in the last 9 months or so, before that we use wand. Spinner is much better in cleaning performance.

A carpet wand?

A hard surface wand cleans just as well or better than a spinner in my experience..........I have both and use the HS wand 90% of the time.

Plus is much better for tight areas, edges and corners.
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Post by Davey Cracker Fri May 22, 2015 4:17 pm

Mo wrote:Tony sent me some pics of the new hard surface tool. It comes with a replaceable squeege and brush head option?  He going to be sending it to me so that we can take a closer look at at it. The cleaners lounge price $199.00

I have always used a spinner never used one these style hard surface tools. So is one of the advantages is that its smaller and it easier to get into to places the spinner doesn't? What are some of the other advantages over a spinner? The price is right that's for dang sure

Well, besides what I mentioned above. Another advantage is you can easily get under toe-kicks with it, unlike most spinners. But that's with my Gecko, I'm not sure that's going to work with Tony's external manifold sticking up like that......I'd say that's a major drawback?

I had always used a spinner, when I only had a spinner. But now that I bought the Gecko that's what I use most of the time.
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Post by milspec6 Fri May 22, 2015 4:40 pm

The only issue I have with hard surface wands are the jet angles. Most (if not all) aim the jets straight down. Ever clean your driveway with a pressure washer? You clean best at an angle shearing off the crud, going straight down just makes the recovery do all the work....it is why they are slow and require multiple passes.

A spinner at least has angled jets and shear the surface, they just don't have the best recovery either.

A hard surface tool shaped like a gekko that used properly angled jets would be the way to go.....anyone make one of those?
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Post by Mo Sat May 23, 2015 8:06 am

I like you shearing explanation of the spinner action Rob. So because on the lack of shearing action on a hard surface tool you need more PSI to clean?

Tony can you make the jets set at an angle instead of straight down?

On my SX-12 I have a brush squeege combo ring on it. Dave what do you prefer the brush or the squeege?
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Post by Floorguy Sat May 23, 2015 6:56 pm

now he needs to make the smaller head with it to...maybe with the spray bar inside the head, and 2 jets???
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Post by dp1 Sat May 23, 2015 11:43 pm

Mo wrote:More coverage area and better recovery?

Yup and Nope, wand has better recovery imo.
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Post by dp1 Sat May 23, 2015 11:46 pm

Davey Cracker wrote:
dp1 wrote:I've been using spinner in the last 9 months or so, before that we use wand. Spinner is much better in cleaning performance.

A carpet wand?

A hard surface wand cleans just as well or better than a spinner in my experience..........I have both and use the HS wand 90% of the time.

Plus is much better for tight areas, edges and corners.

yes and also the gekko wand, and you are correct, wand is much better for tight areas and you're right about Tony's wand too, that wand will not fit under most toe kicks. But if you have $ 220 to spend on a new gekko head, then by all means buy gekko head :-)
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Post by dp1 Sat May 23, 2015 11:55 pm

Mo wrote:I like you shearing explanation of the spinner action Rob. So because on the lack of shearing action on a hard surface tool you need more PSI to clean?

Tony can you make the jets set at an angle instead of straight down?

On my SX-12 I have a brush squeege combo ring on it. Dave what do you prefer the brush or the squeege?

The brush provides more agitation but is not as good in recovery due to air leak, but you can clean with slightly less pressure because of the air leak, the squeege is excellent on recovery but you need to clean at higher pressure and if you don't have the angle right, it will lock on the floor.

Tony can make anything Razz
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Post by Mo Sun May 24, 2015 8:38 am

Looks like were going to gave some fun building a hard surface tool.

So far we have the following suggestions.


  1. Angeled jets for shearing action
  2. Internal spray bar to remove hoses on top of head
  3. Smaller Head


I can under most toe kicks with my SX12 the height on this tool is lower profile than the sx-12 so I don't see why it won't fit under toe kicks. Are you guys saying the hoses are in the way?

Dave what are the dimensions of you hard surface tool head?
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Post by dp1 Sun May 24, 2015 8:54 am

Not the hoses silly, the spray bars looks like sticks up too high, but then again we can't be completely sure it won't fit under toe kicks, besides some toe kicks are higher than others.
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Post by Mo Tue May 26, 2015 7:19 am

I guess you can't tell in pics but I suspect it won't have a problem fitting under toe kicks we'll find out as soon as I get it.
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