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Post by gtech12v Fri May 23, 2014 11:47 am

I had this idea of using this 1/4" X 1-3/4" OD10" Double Helix Copper Moonshine Condensing Coil to catch the heat from my engine exhaust , routing the return water line from my pressure regularor going back to my water box with a temperature 140* dump valve is working great the Kero burner does not stay on for long to get the water as hot as I want
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Post by Ryan S Fri May 23, 2014 12:17 pm

What ya do with the shine bounce 
Cool idea. Looks like it works
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Post by Larry Henson Fri May 23, 2014 12:19 pm

Great idea. So this works on the low pressure or bypass side and is wrapped around the exhaust?
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Post by gtech12v Fri May 23, 2014 12:35 pm

Larry Henson wrote:Great idea. So this works on the low pressure or bypass side and is wrapped around the exhaust?
That is correct the low pressure water going back to the water box , Installed a temperature valve relief to protect the pump , so far is been working for about a month

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Post by Davey Cracker Fri May 23, 2014 12:36 pm

Looks cool.

So does the exhaust heated water then go threw your high pressure pump?
If so, what type of pump do you use?

I've thought about doing similar thing before, but don't know how to do it without running hot water threw the pump.
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Post by gtech12v Fri May 23, 2014 12:41 pm

Davey Cracker wrote:Looks cool.

So does the exhaust heated water then go threw your high pressure pump?
If so, what type of pump do you use?

I've thought about doing similar thing before, but don't know how to do it without running hot water threw the pump.
I have a cat Pump the water going to the pump will not get pass 140* more them safe for any pump , the water will be release when it gets too hot by dumping hot water and letting fresh water in

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Post by Davey Cracker Fri May 23, 2014 12:45 pm

Are you running the high temp seals in the pump?

I might test this by hooking up my TM's incoming water supply hose to my homes water heater, which is about 120 deg. So I can get an idea of how much it improves the water temp coming out of the LG heater and ultimately at the wand.  wink 
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Post by gtech12v Fri May 23, 2014 12:52 pm

Davey Cracker wrote:Are you running the high temp seals in the pump? nope regular seals thet are good up to 165*


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Post by Larry Henson Fri May 23, 2014 12:56 pm

Are you going to run your truck mount to make shine now? They would think you are cleaning carpets.
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Post by gtech12v Fri May 23, 2014 1:00 pm

[quote="Davey Cracker"]Are you running the high temp seals in the pump?

I might test this by hooking up my TM's incoming water supply hose to my homes water heater, which is about 120 deg. So I can get an idea of how much it improves the water temp coming out of the LG heater and ultimately at the wand.  wink [/quote
that is the way some porty guys get more heat , try it and let us know

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Post by Larry Henson Fri May 23, 2014 1:49 pm

How did you coil the tubing without bending it, especially 2 layers?
I might try this on the TM I'm building. I did away with the blower heat exchanger(or the shell of it...no tubes where in there).
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Post by gtech12v Fri May 23, 2014 1:56 pm

Larry Henson wrote:How did you coil the tubing without bending it, especially 2 layers?
I might try this on the TM I'm building. I did away with the blower heat exchanger(or the shell of it...no tubes where in there).
I got it from ebay this guy will do a custom size and lenght fast deliver also
http://www.ebay.com/itm/141249410457?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

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Post by milspec6 Fri May 23, 2014 2:33 pm

That is very interesting...don't know if it would survive the road salt in this area, but if you operate in a warm climate then it looks like a grand idea.
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Post by ACE Services Sat May 24, 2014 4:46 am

Wonder if he could make the coil with stainless.
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Post by Mo Sat May 24, 2014 6:29 am

Great idea Gtech. Is the water that's being dumped going the fresh water tank or water box? I sent the ebay seller an email to see if he can fabricated a stainless coil and what the PSI rating is on the copper coil? Do you think it would be best to put a coil on the high pressure side.
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Post by gtech12v Sat May 24, 2014 5:43 pm

There's not need for a high pressure coil this set up is just to pre-heat the water before it enters the pump
To check if this is for you try it first by connecting to the customers hot water instead of the cold side clean some carpets this way and see if it makes a difference on the amount of heat that your system will produce and maintain

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Post by gtech12v Sat May 24, 2014 5:58 pm

To Mo the water on my system dumps in to my waste tank I don't have a fresh tank but it can be routed to dump anywhere it's your choice
Remember it only dumps water when the water in the box is 140* and not before

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Post by gtech12v Sat May 24, 2014 5:59 pm

To Mo the water on my system dumps in to my waste tank I don't have a fresh tank but it can be routed to dump anywhere it's your choice
Remember it only dumps water when the water in the box is 140* and not before

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Post by ej54 Sun May 25, 2014 2:35 am

Wrap it with exhaust heat wrap. It will make it even hotter.
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Post by gtech12v Sun May 25, 2014 10:13 am

ej54 wrote:Wrap it with exhaust heat wrap. It will make it even hotter.
Done the wrap made a big increase in heat Thank's

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Post by Cjcann Thu May 29, 2014 7:54 pm

Wile E Coyote- Super genius! Great mod!
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Post by Mo Thu May 29, 2014 9:01 pm

The ebay seller said that they are refrigerator coils he doesn't have any stainless ones
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