El diablo solenoid

milspec6 wrote:Curious...what about the butler internals concerns you?

All the lines have quick connections, easy access to pump and blower, external heat exchanger...not a problem there.  The wiring at the control panel can get a little cramped, but they use automotive components, so I just let my mechanic deal with that when the van is in for servicing.

I'm not saying that a butler is the ideal choice for everyone, it isn't, but working on one hasn't been bad for me.  

I do wish it was on a slide so that you could pull it out to work on instead of crawling into the van, but that is the same with any machine.  I am just not that flexible at times.

Well I opened the access panel and this was an older butler van/unit... it just looked tough to service, I didnt see any QDs in there and I guess I am just comparing to a tnt style machine where everything is bolt on bolt off

probably not much harder than working on any car, I have no experience with PTOs though. Im not sure what year this one was but the van had over 100k on it and it looked like an early butler design

Compared to a tnt, everything looks like a pita. I look at my tnt and almost laugh at easy it will be to work on.

The butlers are pretty simple, but you are correct, no comparison to a tnt for ease of maint.

Looks like we have controlled heat again!!

Tore everything down, cleaned it, and replaced the solenoid with a new one.....steady heat. Only question is which part fixed it? Was it the solenoid or just the cleaning of all the parts and wiring?

I guess I will just be happy with the end result for now....probably wasted money on that solenoid.

Glad you got it figured out.

Actually, the unit is down again.

The heater is operational, but he tells me that the pump has zero pressure now...he is hoping that he just cooked the pump seals and will be over-hauling it in the morning. I have my doubts.

I need that truck for Sunday's marathon cleaning and he is driving me nuts. I guess I will have to drive out there again and see what is going on. I guess the seals may have been damaged with the runaway heater, but I kind of doubt it. I'm leaning towards a psi regulator or something.

Hopefully, the answer gets found tomorrow while Dultmeir is open for parts. If not, I will be having a very rough day come Sunday.

DAMN, like they say........ if it's not one thing, its another!...
Huh.
It's a never ending job of repairs and maint. with a lot of TM's it seems....I know that deal too well.

Well, I wish you luck in getting it sorted out..

Repairs are common this time of year, winter is hard on equipment. The sad part is that I am on the phone trying to troubleshoot one tm while leaning up against my near-new tnt just sitting in the garage.

I will be so glad when Spring gets here so that I can get that second truck on the road. Can't get here fast enough.

Just sneak that Orbot in the building

Mo wrote:Just sneak that Orbot in the building

Security Cameras......caught me once not cleaning off some over-spray on the baseboard once. They are too shrewd for the orbot.

IT LIVES!!!

After digging into the project for most of the day, the problem came down to a crack in the head of the pump....aka freeze damage!

Just can't beat Jack Frost or his brother "Freeze your butt" when it comes to truck mounts. At least it is on-line and all systems are a go for Sunday's marathon.

Have to admit, I was getting worried.

Did you have to replace the pump head?

I'm surprised that cracked, with what would seem like so many other 'weaker links' to give out first, in that system.

Yep, replaced the head....among about everything else before we were done.

I agree, it seems like an odd place for the damage, but the same thing happened to my Cat 430 a couple of years ago about 2 months after suffering a freeze up.

At least it has a fully rebuilt pump now, so things should hold together for for the time being.

Lines freeze first then the water in the larger thicker components can't move anywhere it expands and crack you need a pump head. Beware the other areas have been weakened and can break anytime.