Hydroforce lifespan.

I usually have pretty good lifespan out of my hydroforce, but when they failed and you're trying to rebuild it, they're really a hit or miss, I have one now that ate 3 rebuild kit springs and still not pulling solutions out, this is my 2nd one that's not repairable, my local cleaner friend happened to call me yesterday and I told him about it and he said that he bought new square part on top of the cap along with everything under it, including the hose for $ 40, I thought that's pretty cheap, isn't it ? so I asked him to get me one.

How's your experience with HF rebuild kit ?

No l luck with rebuild kits either.

I have purchased the sprayer block like you did and it is also hit and miss. Replaced 3 of those blocks and 2 worked well, but one failed about 2 weeks later. Of the working 2, one leaks pretty bad after 3 months.

I keep meaning to take Joe up on his program. Send him the bad units and he rebuilds them with a ss block...lifetime replacement I believe.

I actually have 3 bad ones now sitting on the shelf.

I got a dema (block)  from joe but it doesnt come with a way to secure the bottle cap to it so wasnt able to use it,     when you buy a hydroforce its made to fit with the block and bottle cap.      

I tried to cut a cap and secure it to the dema Joe sent me but just couldnt get it to fit and any silicon or glue etc just gets wasted by the pre spray/peroxide.     I screwed with it for a while but it just kept falling off and pre spray splashing everywhere,    just ended up buying a whole new hydroforce and its worked great for a long time.  

They way they come from hydroforce theres a special little plastic ring that holds that cap secure to the dema block and leak proof,   then the draw tube is attached below.      


If you look on ebay though theres a complete dema block with bottle cap and draw tube all put together for $30 with the cap sealed on to the block.

I guess I've been lucky, I bought a sprayer from Steam Genie 20 years ago and I'm still using it without a problem......besides the occasional clog from debris. But I've always just been able to clean it out and it works fine again.  ^The difference is the Dema valve is mounted to the sprayer gun with a 1/4" hose going to the separate 5 qt. container.

If you have a problem with Dema valves I'd certainly take Joe up on his exchange offer.

Just a note if you've replaced the block assy. you have to be carful not to over tighten the handle or the wand Line because the seal on either side can be compressed to the point they block the water flow. If it doesn't get the right water flow it won't draw. I always test with a water hose not hp hose if it won't draw using low press it won't draw with high press. As you O/O know the water flow over the top of the draw line is what makes it work not pressure.

Thanks for the tips and info guys, I talked to Joe yesterday and ordered 2 of those metering blocks ( or dema valve ). Hope it works out well.

ACE Services wrote:Just a note if you've replaced the block assy. you have to be carful not to over tighten the handle or the wand Line because the seal on either side can be compressed to the point they block the water flow. If it doesn't get the right water flow it won't draw. I always test with a water hose not hp hose if it won't draw using low press it won't draw with high press. As you O/O know the water flow over the top of the draw line is what makes it work not pressure.

Nice tip, that may have been my problem....I did torque them down pretty tight.

dp1 wrote:Thanks for the tips and info guys, I talked to Joe yesterday and ordered 2 of those metering blocks ( or dema valve ). Hope it works out well.

gl Dp,   not sure if you read my post but your going to have to secure the cap to the dema valve somehow.     I maybe you have a different model inline sprayer but I messed with it for a while,    mine was secured to the cap with a special plastic ring that I couldnt re use or find anywhere.     All said and done it was getting too time consuming to not just buy a new hydroforce for $100

Its basically a little ring that seals the draw tube to the bottle cap and the dema,   but it swivels to allow you to screw the cap on to the bottle.    Your going to have to fabricate this piece if your sprayer is built the same as mine was.      gl buddy,   but any glue or puddy wont work because you wont be able to twist the cap on

AC, yes I read your post and asked Joe about that, he said no problem, so if it's a problem to put the cap back on there, I might just return them, I've never had to return anything I bought from him yet but he always said to let him know if there's any issues, so this would be a test if it doesn't work.
BTW where did you get HF for $ 100 ? Last time I bought one was from Jon Don and it was $ 120.

I wondered the same thing, $100?......seems real low, prob used or knock-off for that price?

sry was just rounding, I think it was about 115 or so.

Its a powerforce, which is the same thing and actually has out lasted my name brand hydroforce from before

I have had pretty good luck with my HF, I bought it back when I started and it is still going, 6 years now, getting ready to put my 2nd supply line on it as they get all dried out and cracked.
I don't use the tips inside I like to mix up what I think will get that job done, then mix for my next.

SCCC wrote:I have had pretty good luck with my HF, I bought it back when I started and it is still going, 6 years now, getting ready to put my 2nd supply line on it as they get all dried out and cracked.
I don't use the tips inside I like to mix up what I think will get that job done, then mix for my next.

I stopped using the metering tips as well a few years ago...kept clogging up when using encap boost.

I normally get 2 years out of a sprayer, but I am also terrible about rinsing them out after usage. It is pretty common for me to go a month before rinsing out and running some vinegar through them. I guess I deserve the break-downs.

We're sposta rinse them out? Hmmmmm, I didn't know that, and have never done it. But I don't think my Dema has a metering tip in it either.

AC, I installed the new Dema valve last night and didn't have any issues with it, transferred the old lid to the new valve, you need to take the nipple out though to slide the lid up, and be careful not to lose the spring in the process.
Asked Ben to test it today, see what happens.
I noticed that the spring is bigger than hydroforce and my 9:1 tip doesn't fit in there, so I assumed it's 4:1 ? I gotta ask Joe if he sells the 9:1 tip, cause that will save us a lot of time from making pre sprays a few times a day instead of just once or twice.