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New oil in my TM motor
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New oil in my TM motor
Went to buy some synthetic oil for my v twin Harbor Freight special. Went to Advanced auto parts- always over priced unless you use the 20% internet discount and then you are paying average retail. Then walked over to the much smaller Napa right around the corner. Sold me some Amsoil 4 cycle commercially rated 10w30 made for commercial engines generators and the such, about $8.00 a quart ( $2 ;less than advanced). Didn't even know this stuff existed. I only use about 1 1/2 quarts so it seems worth it. Sales guy said all the landscapers use it. Anybody use this?
http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/motor-oil/4-stroke/formula-4-stroke-10w-30-sae-30-small-engine-oil/
http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/motor-oil/4-stroke/formula-4-stroke-10w-30-sae-30-small-engine-oil/
Re: New oil in my TM motor
ya amsoil is pretty good stuff.
Ive been running Castrol gtx in the TNT, it takes exactly 7 cups of oil
I use 6 cups of GTX and then 1 cup of lucas
the lucas is like snot lol, super thick
Ive been running Castrol gtx in the TNT, it takes exactly 7 cups of oil
I use 6 cups of GTX and then 1 cup of lucas
the lucas is like snot lol, super thick
Re: New oil in my TM motor
I think any syntetic oil is going to be far superior than dino oil.
I usually use Mobil1, or other syn oils if they are on sale and considerably cheaper.
But unless you already have 50 hours or so on that engine, I wouldn't yet switch to syn oil..........you want to make sure it's broken in well on dino first before going to syn. oil.
I usually use Mobil1, or other syn oils if they are on sale and considerably cheaper.
But unless you already have 50 hours or so on that engine, I wouldn't yet switch to syn oil..........you want to make sure it's broken in well on dino first before going to syn. oil.
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Re: New oil in my TM motor
Buy Mobil 1 at Walmart 5qt at atime averages around 5.50 qt.
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Re: New oil in my TM motor
so...put synthetic in the van motor for a PTO?
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Re: New oil in my TM motor
Put it in everything, you like, once the engine is properly broke-in!
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Re: New oil in my TM motor
Just got my van...it is a 2015 with 22k miles. Chevy express 2500...what oil is good?
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Re: New oil in my TM motor
I've used Delo 400 all my life and haven't tried synthetic yet. Ive been adding this to my oil and fuel to keep all my high mileage vehicles up and going. http://enginelifetreatment.com/ Heck it even has a warranty.
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Re: New oil in my TM motor
Devon07 wrote:Just got my van...it is a 2015 with 22k miles. Chevy express 2500...what oil is good?
I'd drain whatevers in there now, sense you don't know what it is, and replace with any synthetic oil.
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Re: New oil in my TM motor
like Mobile 1 synth?
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Re: New oil in my TM motor
ACE Services wrote:Buy Mobil 1 at Walmart 5qt at atime averages around 5.50 qt.
Yeah you can get some good deals on the gallon jugs at Wally World and check for the mail in reabtes
Re: New oil in my TM motor
Think I'll do that today...Wally World is not where I want to go though...I like to pay more to stay out of that place.
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Re: New oil in my TM motor
Costco has the best deal when it has $ 10 off a case of 6 quarts, comes down to $ 26 - $ 27 ?
Brian, in my experience those warranties are a bunch of bolognies, they will find any excuse they can to get out of paying for new motor, user's abuse, motor malfunction, etc.
I'm not saying those oil treatments are bad, I used slick 50 and one more brand which I can't remember in the past, they really help older motor runs better and smoother.
Mobil 1 for me 5w30 for all the motors in my garage and driveways.
Brian, in my experience those warranties are a bunch of bolognies, they will find any excuse they can to get out of paying for new motor, user's abuse, motor malfunction, etc.
I'm not saying those oil treatments are bad, I used slick 50 and one more brand which I can't remember in the past, they really help older motor runs better and smoother.
Mobil 1 for me 5w30 for all the motors in my garage and driveways.
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Re: New oil in my TM motor
Devon07 wrote:Think I'll do that today...Wally World is not where I want to go though...I like to pay more to stay out of that place.
Why's that if you don't mind me asking ?
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Re: New oil in my TM motor
It's just a personal issue...WalMart is the beast to me. Im not influenced by price...never have been and probably wont ever be....its funny how I am about money....I never really had much of it but its nothing that controls me, its value is over rated....I am big on barter, Gold and silver, self employed and staying away from company's that knock off others products and sell cheaper.
Im wired oddly and I know it. I think outside the box and dont do well with others telling me what to do....BUT, I like to do for the underdog and im considered a people person. I have very wealthy friends and they feel as I do...its about belief and WalMart doesnt fit into this category...they hurt people not help people. I live the "pay it forward" motto and live for the "high" of shocking people with off the wall good situations. I do not like when people are trying and get into a financial situation then taken advantage of. I love to help troubled kids and hate monopolies....I love transparency and just like people to be real.
LOL....sorry this is so scrambled but Im multi tasking at the moment.
Im wired oddly and I know it. I think outside the box and dont do well with others telling me what to do....BUT, I like to do for the underdog and im considered a people person. I have very wealthy friends and they feel as I do...its about belief and WalMart doesnt fit into this category...they hurt people not help people. I live the "pay it forward" motto and live for the "high" of shocking people with off the wall good situations. I do not like when people are trying and get into a financial situation then taken advantage of. I love to help troubled kids and hate monopolies....I love transparency and just like people to be real.
LOL....sorry this is so scrambled but Im multi tasking at the moment.
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Re: New oil in my TM motor
A new engine should not run on synthetic until broken in...rings need to seat first. Otherwise, you may never attain proper oil control and end up burning oil.
The best non-syn has always been the Castrol GTX. It was designed for the high revving turbo engines found in foreign cars....nearly a race oil. Our family shop only used that on foreign engines since the late 70's.
Amsoil makes a very good syn oil...access and price are the only concerns.
On a direct drive, I don't like using synthetic due to cost. I change the oil every month, so any good conventional oil will get the job done fine. A quality dino oil is very effective when it is clean, synthetic will actually lower the engine temp a few degrees which also will lower the heat available to your Hx on a direct drive.
One tip with the direct drives is to run them with the hood open. All the seals and hoses get baked pretty quickly with the hood closed. Especially the hydraulic lines.
The best non-syn has always been the Castrol GTX. It was designed for the high revving turbo engines found in foreign cars....nearly a race oil. Our family shop only used that on foreign engines since the late 70's.
Amsoil makes a very good syn oil...access and price are the only concerns.
On a direct drive, I don't like using synthetic due to cost. I change the oil every month, so any good conventional oil will get the job done fine. A quality dino oil is very effective when it is clean, synthetic will actually lower the engine temp a few degrees which also will lower the heat available to your Hx on a direct drive.
One tip with the direct drives is to run them with the hood open. All the seals and hoses get baked pretty quickly with the hood closed. Especially the hydraulic lines.
Re: New oil in my TM motor
Have you guys ever heard that once you go synthetic you shouldn't go back to non synthetic? BS?
Re: New oil in my TM motor
Mo wrote:Have you guys ever heard that once you go synthetic you shouldn't go back to non synthetic? BS?
Pure BS.
When synthetics first came out, they were not very compatible with dino oil, which is where that belief came from. Now, they are almost all fully compatible....ever notice all the part-syn oils on the shelf? You can go back and forth, no big deal, but for longest life in an engine you want to choose a brand and stick with it. Changing brands introduces different mineral stocks and additives....some might not work well together.
Re: New oil in my TM motor
I run Amsoil in everything. If you pay a small fee you get a good discount. I buy enough for a couple of years at a time. They have special oil filters and air filters for cars too.
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Re: New oil in my TM motor
I hear you, I didn't know wally world = wal mart, I hardly shop there too, I think they're evil, lol.
I heard Amsoil is good for 10,000 miles ?
I heard Amsoil is good for 10,000 miles ?
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Re: New oil in my TM motor
We have someone around here who has the Amsoil logo on his truck....maybe Ill find out who he is for some oil.
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Re: New oil in my TM motor
I wouldn't bother much with the Amsoil filters, but I do like their oil.
The only reason I say that is that there are only a few filter manufactures out there and Amsoil isn't making their own. I believe they just re-brand filters from Baldwin...as does Napa, K&N, and many others.
Baldwin is located here in Nebraska and makes a very large percentage of filters in use today. Save some money and check them out for your filters.
The only reason I say that is that there are only a few filter manufactures out there and Amsoil isn't making their own. I believe they just re-brand filters from Baldwin...as does Napa, K&N, and many others.
Baldwin is located here in Nebraska and makes a very large percentage of filters in use today. Save some money and check them out for your filters.
Re: New oil in my TM motor
That's goof to know Rob. Didn't see any filter options for motorcycle or atvs on their site
Re: New oil in my TM motor
Don't know if they make any for those vehicles or not, but you can find about everything else. They are probably the most common filter in use by fleet managers today.
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