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Post by Mo on Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:04 am

I forgot to formally introduce Judson Truckmounts as our newest sponsor. Welcome Les and Darryl and thanks for sponsoring the forum. I think you'll find that there a lot of members here that love your truckmounts including me.
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Post by Pro Touch on Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:25 am

Welcome Judson, it's nice to have you on board.

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Re: Welcome oue newest sponsor Judson Truckmounts

Post by milspec6 on Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:43 pm

I know I am looking forward to using my TNT...hope I am not retired before it gets here Crying or Very sad silent Sleep
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Re: Welcome oue newest sponsor Judson Truckmounts

Post by Ryan S on Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:02 pm

Is this gonna be Judson aka Les Jones? Or is this just the Social Media Marketing Specialist?  If it's not Les, then the only thing to offer here is marketing material targeted to Judson Laboratories for the benefit of one person.  Sure Free stuff will fly around, but it takes more than free stuff to buy out this group.

Please take note of our CONTRIBUTING! Member Suppliers, (BonnetPro, Wanders Supply, DeepGreen, and the like) and how they give loads of feed back and informative information  that helps all who may come and visit The Cleaners Lounge.

Please don't take offense to the above commentary. I'm a non paid moderator, who's main focus is maintaining the soul purpose of The Cleaners Lounge.  Which if your not sure what that is,  it's Real Cleaners  supporting each other through collect knowledge, experience, research, development, application, evolution, and innovation.  

Yes, Real Cleaners can also be suppliers.  I know Les is, just not sure about the Judson Truckmount Sponsor.

Welcome to The Cleaners Lounge.  wink

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Post by Matt; My carpet cleaner on Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:09 pm

Well let's give them a chance and find out. Any contributions from the Judson group will benifit all.
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Re: Welcome oue newest sponsor Judson Truckmounts

Post by Mo on Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:01 pm

I spoke to Les last week about sponsoring and I hope he can stop by and post on the forum as well.  Not seeing Les participate in any of the forums has been a loss to the entire industry.

Ryan you forgot one of the things that his forum is about and that's connecting. Give Les a call and welcome him to the forum and thank him for sponsoring.

Darryl is Les's right hand man when it comes to the marketing and the tech part of the business and he can post all the marketing material he wants on the Judson forum section of the forum.
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Re: Welcome oue newest sponsor Judson Truckmounts

Post by Ryan S on Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:45 am

Two years, two years in a row. A raffle was held for a prize. Where those who supported the sponsor through purchasing products where give a raffle ticket for X amount of dollars per ticket of supplies bought. The first year I held over 100 tickets, that year the prize went to the winner who just showed up on some forum supported seminar. No contribution to the supplier from the winner except running to the FREE hand out, no loyalty at all.

Second year my quantity lowered in sales because of the bad taste from the first year. After all why should I be rewarded for being a loyal customer. This year I hold near 50 tickets. Again, the winner goes to some person who just shows up at am event, bearing no loyalty to the supplier at all.

I agree, a supplier can change the rules or give raffle ticket how ever they please, my point is why lean on loyalty to fuel the flames of profit to burn the loyalty I. The midnight hour.

My ultimate point to topic, do we need more marketing videos of stuff we all already know about?  Or do we need more support to the customer and support to the supplier from the customer.  

Why the big parade?  Is it money?  No one cares of it's that, make money. It's not a bank load, we all know that. Be transparent, just like you did with the sapphire raffle, you have each name of the member, not some AKA, and each amount of tickets purchased. We all can see those who purchased are notable contributing members. I applaud you for that Mo.  

What we need is each member working for the whole, each supplier working for the whole. We should encourage supplier to come, but at a cost to the group. Sure you deserve a cut Mo, take half or take 3/4, but let the rest go to the group. But hold them accountable each month, all of us!  Suppliers, hold the members accountable to their contributions for the investment you will have in the group with your share of the cut. Members hold the suppliers accountable for their contributions and for their cut to the group.

It's not about Money, it's about the group! Helping each other!  Through accountability. Why do we so easily follow the normal trend of these forums. They are all sided one way!  Keep The Cleaners Lounge about the group as a whole.

Think! Think! Think!

We haven't added substantial contributing members since our conception!  The members that we do add only come for the give outs!  Why?  Because there is NO accountability for their contributions.


Strip me from leadership, Ban me, throw stones at me, what ever, but dog, let's don't masquerade the truth.

Good grief Mo, you even had to go to the suppliers forum to make their promotion for them. The only thing they did was post a freaking marketing video. Heck I've seen all of them on YouTube!  They are cool, great, and even creative. But how does that help the cleaner when they drop the wand to the carpet?  It doesn't.

I like Judson, it's not about liking or not. Heck I use their supplies, I bought a brand new TNT last year. Which they made well deserved money for. Connect to what?

260 members who cares. We have 20 who actively contribute. Let's some foul ourselves. Where are the other 240? I know they running to what ever free crap is being slung out on what ever board. Come on!


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Re: Welcome oue newest sponsor Judson Truckmounts

Post by Mo on Wed Apr 16, 2014 7:46 am

Dude you're getting weird. Let me make this clear to you any money generated by this forum is going back to the forum. If that ever changes I will let you know.

I met Les at ICE thought he was a cool dude. The main reason I called him was to talk about my rebuild. I was hoping he would post on the forum but thanks to your warm welcome...
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Post by Ryan S on Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:21 am

Mo wrote:Dude you're getting weird. Let me make this clear to you any money generated by this forum is going back to the forum. If that ever changes I will let you know.

I met Les at ICE thought he was a cool dude. The main reason I called him was to talk about my rebuild. I was hoping he would post on the forum but thanks to your warm welcome...

So you agree, you talked to Les about joining to forum, not the IT guy?  I'm not throwing stones at Judson Mo. Not at all.  Matter of fact, I just posed a question in my welcome.   Les would be great to have on the forum, if he would want to contribute. They both have been members here since the beginning of the year.

Why would you want me to call him?  

I've talked to Les many times and he is a fantastic person, with lots of knowledge.  

Take me off as a moderator if you think my statements would prevent someone from coming to the lounge. I'm not trying to road block anybody.  You want me to be me right?  Well, I am, this is the same way I've always been, be it the cafe, the hq, TMF, or here.  I'm for the people, and I will also stand for the supplier too, I don't have to prove that, just look at my post/threads.   I will always follow the guidelines you set before me.

I really don't get why Darryl couldn't post for himself what he wanted to contribute here? Why do you have to do that for them. You don't have to do that for any other supplier.  Dog, I've seen several suppliers fight for their own on the board when members pose valid questions.

Again, I'm not upset, or mad at anyone. I am a little irritated that you told me to call Les and welcome him to the board personally and thank him for his sponsorship. I don't do that for any other sponsors.  The rest is just what this board has stood for from the begin. Remember the cafe, and then the split from the HQ, which you so well orchestrated.  Remember why we split?  I do.  

I'm good Mo, not weird thought, tired yes, not weird.

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Post by Mo on Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:02 pm

Yes Les became a member here after I met him at ICE.  I don't understand what you mean by posting for Daryll. He posted and ad in the Judson forum.

I posted a welcome thread to Judson Truckmounts which you chose to turn into a rant as to how members and suppliers are to comport themselves on the forum. 

Look at the most recent registrant Jan Sullins. He been in the biz over 30 years has posted in a few forums. I've talked to him a couple of times about ETMs and LG heaters and his beloved OKC Thunder. Do you think he wants to hear this bullshit about sponsors,  and weather I make money on the forum etc? I don't think so, It just turns people off. The lurkers love it though.
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Post by Ryan S on Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:39 pm

Mo I wasn't asking if you were making money. As far as they point goes. I was pointing out no one cares and if asked they would say you deserve it.

I went on the rant cause you point out that we should thank suppliers for supporting, and saying to call them to welcome them to the board. Why would any member do that? What you have worked to sustain is an environment where cleaner and supplier work together to support each other the the greater good. Not so one side or the other get the higher priority.

If the lounge was only about the cleaner and their needs we would never have a supplier choose to give support the cleaners development.

If the lounge was only bout the supplier and their needs we would never have cleaners around to help develop their product or innovations.

But when the lounge exist to support both cleaner and supplier by give back to each other in a wonderful ecosystem. You have a great harmony of innovation, development, and success for both.

I think guys like Jan, are intrigued by what they find here. I have no disrespect to anyone of those who choose the be INVOLVED here on the lounge. I work my tail off and am constantly working over things in my mind to help as many members or supplier here. Just look Mo. Think about how many so called rants I have, and then think about how many beneficial post/topic I produce. Who are they for? Both type, my rant and the benefit of what I choose to bring to the lounge. I would say that my total positive if you would like to split in that form is at 98.8%. Then the negative is at .02%.

I working for everybody here Mo. I'm giving it all that I have. Why? Because this place, this idea that the lounge has is revolutionary. But the on,y way to get it out is to talk about it, and evolve the ideas we have on how the two, cleaner and supplier, can work together to give and help each other.

No one needs an introduction, if anyone wants to contribute in a genuine way, their needs to be no outside motivation. They will do it on their own.

As to why I said you post for them. Judson offered some sample pack for s give away. You don't need to stimulate the topic in their supplier forum. Allow pathetic supplier to develop and evolve their own presents here. Everyone else has.

Judson can see the genuine nature of my point, and I'm sure they have followed lurked for several years now. These guys are creative, Les even has his dog do drawings for him using peanut butter coated raffle tickets. Also, I'm pretty sure Judson knows me personally, as a customer, I use their product and support their innovations. They shouldn't see me as a threat to them freely contributing here on the lounge.

I'd be glad to explain anything else I've said that is foggy. I understand I have a difficult tine expressing exactly my thoughts sometimes, and they may come across as aggressive or vague.

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Post by Mo on Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:43 pm

I didn't say members I said you should welcome him because when you posted your rant it was very welcoming

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Post by Ryan S on Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:00 pm

Mo, I asked a question. Since when does that warrant a welcome phone call or thanks for your sponsorship from me personally?

I don't get it. I'll leave it alone. BTW you can split this topic if you want anytime. I can't, because I don't have moderator status on this forum of the board. Otherwise, I would have done that after I was asked to make a personal phone call.


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Post by Mo on Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:26 pm

OK. Ryan and I agree. We love Judson truck mounts we think Les is cool and hope that he posts on the forum and we welcome Judson Truckmounts as a sponsor.
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Post by Ryan S on Wed Apr 16, 2014 6:34 pm

Heck yeah, we got like three or four Judson TM installations going on right now between our members. I'll post the Judson marketing videos, that way Daryl can focus his time making the videos.

I can hear the calls for Les Jones to jump in the fun. Come on guys agreed? Isn't it Les that would benefit from this collective whole? I really, what a great chance for Les to jump in and contribute, look at all the Judson threads active, look at the Judson TM inquiries lastly, it's a free for all to the Judson sponsorship. But marketing IT isn't gonna add to the topics, it the well versed Les Jones.

Welcome to the stage Les!

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Post by milspec6 on Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:01 pm

I spend the evening playing softball (28 degrees with 30 mph wind) and come home to find this string?

I think I undertand your point Ryan, you are looking for Les to be more engaged than just sending in the marketing department. To not just be a supplier mining another board, but to be an active member that happens to make a great machine. No doubt his contributions would be valuable, but we also know that Les has spoken to probably every member on here that owns a Judson machine....that is engagement beyond most suppliers and should be applauded. I didn't buy my TNT from him, yet he was quick to answer my questions when contacted just the same, hard to find that these days.

I got lost on the topic of the phone call and some other stuff, but I chalk that up to you being really tired. There is no doubt Ryan is passionate about this board and keeping up with his support while working his tail off can't be easy...especially working those nights. Some days you just need to breath in, breath out, and move on.

Oh, and we won the first softball game of the season...nearly parked one over the fence, but the wind held it up and it fell 3 feet short. Now I just need to thaw out and go find my trash can that blew away. Shocked 

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Post by Ryan S on Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:36 pm

Hey, great game rob. I love softball.

I played the youth group in a march madness game Wednesday night. We beat then by 20. I feel like I was in a bar fight. Oh man I'm hurting bad. The last two days of work have been brutal on my body. Through in that zipper and I'm done.

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Post by milspec6 on Fri Apr 18, 2014 7:13 pm

Ryan S wrote:Hey, great game rob. I love softball.

I played the youth group in a march madness game Wednesday night. We beat then by 20. I feel like I was in a bar fight. Oh man I'm hurting bad. The last two days of work have been brutal on my body. Through in that zipper and I'm done.

You are not alone...been limping around like John Wayne and can barely raise my right arm from throwing burn-out drills to warm up. When did we get so old?? Razz 
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