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Post by Mo Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:19 pm

Fuzzsucker wrote:Thats why im considering buying that old tnt. I really just want it for a project machine. The motor and blower I dont even want. To small for my tastes. However that SS tank/frame is an item worth having around.

Actually that gives me an idea. Hey mo you want to buy a used 18hp b&s off that unit?
 I'll take it. I believe Andy was looking for a cat pump.
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Post by Davey Cracker Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:13 pm

Mo wrote:I can see why you went with that 25 HP Davey. It's is a better value and it includes the wiring harness extension, switch, and muffler at $1767.00. You have any video of the engine installed and running?

Yes, I went with 25hp for a couple reasons, not much cost difference, and because I'll have enough hp to upgrade to lager blower down the road.

I'm wondering how you came up with that price?..............Did OPE give you that price of $1767 biased on what I purchased?

The cost for the CH730-3208 was $1,540.00, plus 248612S exhaust $106.32......then I added the Kohler key switch and harness extension loom for ease of install, my original plan was to use my existing key switch and make my own loom, but decided to spend the extra $68.38 to make the install easier, although not totally necessary.
So the total for everything I bought with free shipping was $1,714.73. So that's why I wonder where the price of $1767 came from?

Unfortunately or fortunately I've been too busy to even begin the install or begin the machine restoration I have planned, so no I don't have any installed/running vid/pics yet.  It's going to take some time and fabrication going from my current Onan to the Kohler, so I need to wait till after xmas prob to really begin.

You know I think for a new build like yours Mo, you should be able to find a less expensive spec engine to use since matching up to an existing eng like mine was important to me.
I think if you're not too worried about shaft size, eng controls on eng or remote, air filter config. and stuff like that, then you should be able to find a cheaper spec eng that will work........they have hundreds of them, you just need to figure out the specs are important to you and find the lowest cost one with them.

Oh and also,you guys talking about failure or this build not working lol........

If you're thinking it's not going to work or going to fail it probably will, if you think/plan to make it work and are determined to make it work it will...........I say put that negative BS/failing thought out of you head, and make the damn thing work!!  laughing
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Post by Mo Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:53 pm

Thanks Davey I needed that kick in the ass. My main concern was spending to much money to get this done. Don't laugh but I have a budget of 3k. The extra 48.00 on the quote was for residential shipping
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Post by Davey Cracker Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:11 pm

Mo wrote:Thanks Davey I needed that kick in the ass. My main concern was spending to much money to get this done. Don't laugh but I have a budget of 3k. The extra 48.00 on the quote was for residential shipping

I understand, that's why I wasn't going to spend the extra money on the stuff I did.

So sticking to you budget, why not have it shipped to commercial addy?,,,,,,you cant tell me no one you know works at a place with a comm address, that would accept the delivery?!  rabbit 
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Post by Davey Cracker Fri Dec 13, 2013 10:40 pm

Mo, check this out, Judson TNT using Kohler now .  Very Happy ..........

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Post by Fuzzsucker Wed Dec 18, 2013 6:03 pm

That video makes me wanna cough up the bucks for a judson tank frame. So simple. I love those machines
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Post by milspec6 Wed Dec 18, 2013 7:23 pm

Fuzzsucker wrote:That video makes me wanna cough up the bucks for a judson tank frame. So simple.  I love those machines

I feel the same way about the new dash, that is some good thinking right there.
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Post by ACpower1 Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:18 pm

anyone know how much a tank/dash assembly is from judson?
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Post by Davey Cracker Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:45 pm

I'd be interested to know also...........I'll guess between 2-3k.  confused 
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Post by ACE Services Sun Dec 22, 2013 8:45 pm

Last I heard was closer to 5K
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Post by Fuzzsucker Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:28 pm

It's 5-6k depending on raw metal or powder coated
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Post by Davey Cracker Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:44 pm

Mo, that Thrush muffler you got..............is it 2.5" in and out? You said you got it at AutoZone? I don't see it on their website?

Also, does anyone know if this is the type that Judson uses?....or???
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Post by Ryan S Tue Dec 31, 2013 4:04 am


Les talks about where that silencer come from in this video.
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Post by Mo Tue Dec 31, 2013 9:07 am

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accessories/Thrush-Turbo-Universal-muffler/_/N-25kpZ1z0z0mj?itemIdentifier=276175_0_0_
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Post by Davey Cracker Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:39 pm

Cool, thanks guys!!  wink 
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Post by Fuzzsucker Tue Dec 31, 2013 3:43 pm

I've been doing some research into stainless steel prices. Really not that expensive. For enough to make a judson style tank would be around 1500. From my guesstimates anyway. The judson engineering is the hard part.
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Post by Davey Cracker Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:11 pm

Mo, are you still working on this?

I was wondering because I'm in the middle of mine now, and thought of you........hmm maybe I should start a thread on mine!  dancing 
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Post by ACE Services Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:58 am

Ok I have no way to evidence but I have done some searching have that there are some fuel tanks that look a lot like the Judson tank just need the clean out holes cut and caps installed. Install the face panel and mounting plates for motor blower pump. If interested when I get a chance I'll try and find it again.
I say this because step back and look at the Judson. Now take every thing off down to just the square tank. The tube where the blower connects is the filler neck and it is threaded. The drain on the bottom would be in the same place. A good fuel tank would have a baffle inside to control the liquid inside just like the Judson but Judson uses the baffle to support the tank top that the blower and other assy. are mounted as I said no proof. But just a thought.
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Post by Mo Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:50 am

Do it Davey this project is on hold for now.

Yeah check it out Ace. I think Fuzzsucker was looking for just the tank but someone else might be interested to.

I need a used engine
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Post by Mo Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:03 pm

So a couple of days ago I finally found a used Kohler for the project and made an appointment to meet with the guy.  Later that day I'm surfing the net and find a deal  on a truckmount that I simple was not able to pass up. I couldn't give them my money fast enough. Hopefully I didn't get ripped off affraid  It was out of a janitorial supply house on the east coast.

Don't need that waste tank anymore ACE.
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Post by ACE Services Wed Feb 26, 2014 6:37 am

Ok Mo 
Sorry I couldn't find the other one for you.
Glad to hear you found one that will work. 
I had even talked to Ryan about if you took a 100 gal propane tank laying down if it could be modified to work when I get time I'll draw up my ideas and see what you guys think.
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Post by Larry Henson Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:05 am

Mo wrote:So a couple of days ago I finally found a used Kohler for the project and made an appointment to meet with the guy.  Later that day I'm surfing the net and find a deal  on a truckmount that I simple was not able to pass up. I couldn't give them my money fast enough. Hopefully I didn't get ripped off affraid  It was out of a janitorial supply house on the east coast.

Don't need that waste tank anymore ACE.

What kind of machine did you find Mo? Any pictures?
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Post by Fuzzsucker Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:03 pm

I wanna know more too Mo!
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Post by Mo Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:32 pm

You know what freaking me out is that they are saying they shipped it out bu FedEx has no record of ever picking it up.  Hopefully its not one of those "If it to god to be true it probably isn't" scenarios affraid
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Post by milspec6 Wed Feb 26, 2014 5:03 pm

The plot thickens...is he related to the guy selling blowers last year?

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