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Post by milspec6 on Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:33 am

Ever since the new formulated "Extreme Clean" ruined a good thing, I have been looking for my new go-to prespray. The "Procyon" was good on low soiled residential, but not commercial. "Slop and Gobble" was okay, but still not great....dwell times for both were way too long for commercial usage in my view. I even went through half a pail of "Grease Eraser"....again, good product, but lacked a few things and again, long dwell times.

Today, I broke out the "Pro-Zyme" by Pro's Choice for both residential and commercial. It blew out a bad residential where an ill dog bled, vomited, and pissed all over a white nylon carpet. The customer was thrilled! She told me that she was worried that it would end up smelling like bubble gum like it did the last time she hired a cleaner. I have no idea who would spray a bubble gum scented deodorizer, but somebody must like it. This customer checked into a hotel due to that smell, so she was not a fan of that cleaner.

Then I hit that theater with it. Heavy soda spills and popcorn butter stains all around.....first pass each time. When I was loading up, the night security said it was the best smelling it has been in 4 years. I was a little insulted as I have been the only one cleaning this account for the last 4 years. Even a late night worker commented that the carpets looked great.

I am a slow guy, but two jobs led to big compliments, so that is enough for me. I am stocking up on it Monday.

"Pro-Zyme" is by Pro's Choice and is an enzyme product. It really starts working on contact and I don't think I ever gave it more than 3 minutes dwell...if that. Cleaned well, wipes out organic stains, breaks up the grease, smells good, and didn't cause any physical side effects with me. That is a winning combination.

Seriously, give it a try if you need something like that.
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Re: Favorite Prespray search is over

Post by Freemind1 on Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:13 am

I always liked Cobb's Powermax.

It too was an enzyme chem.

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Re: Favorite Prespray search is over

Post by milspec6 on Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:09 pm

I haven't tried that one, but the enzyme chem is the answer for me. I have always had Pro-Zyme on the truck for special situations where there was a lot of bio-issues, but never really tried it on a large scale.

It really seems to be an excellent choice on commercial and solid residential. I might even try it on the Theater seats Monday night. Nothing has ever worked very well on those seat stains, so might as well give it a try.
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Re: Favorite Prespray search is over

Post by ACpower1 on Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:35 pm

does it come in a powder?
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Post by milspec6 on Sun Jul 24, 2016 2:18 pm

Yes, it is a powder.
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Post by Matt; My carpet cleaner on Sun Jul 24, 2016 6:03 pm

So how do we get samples? JK

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Post by milspec6 on Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:24 pm

I don't know....it has been around a long time so there probably isn't any promotions out there. At least none that I know of anyway.

Is there a distributor in your area that carries that product line?
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Post by brownieboy on Sun Jul 24, 2016 8:31 pm

I always prefer to use the powders over any other.

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Re: Favorite Prespray search is over

Post by Mo on Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:02 pm

Hopefully they don't change the formulation on you
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Re: Favorite Prespray search is over

Post by ACpower1 on Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:24 pm

hows the dilution?     whats the approx cost for a full hydroforce?

can it be used with oxygen like OSR? or would the enzyme go dead?
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Re: Favorite Prespray search is over

Post by dp1 on Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:42 pm

I think if I'm not mistaken the dilution is about 9 scoops for 5 quarts hydroforce container.
You can get around 6 - 7 full hydroforce per 6.5 lbs jar which I think costs around $ 30 - $ 35 ? So that would make the cost around $ 5 ?
Don't know about mixing result with OSR. I personally like power burst better than the pro zyme but it sounds like this is the new formula ?
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Re: Favorite Prespray search is over

Post by milspec6 on Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:26 am

Wow, you would never know Dp was an accountant Razz

His numbers are right, 18 oz per hydro-force (I think everything Pro's Choice puts out is the same dilution rate for some reason). Jar down here is $35 each and will net you about 6-7 hydro-force sprayers.

All I know is that the stuff works! We used it on the theater tonight....chairs and floor and it rocked. I remember spraying a large soda spill stain and chuckled that it was gone before I came back with the wand...I couldn't find the stain anymore.

How many products do you have on the truck that does that???

As for adding an oxidizer to it? Being enzyme based, I would not suggest it, but admittedly, I have done it by mistake and it still did a good job. Same goes for hot water...even at 190 degrees, it didn't seem to harm its effectiveness.

I haven't tried the Power Burst, but it isn't available to me local, so I couldn't say how they compare.
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Re: Favorite Prespray search is over

Post by Davey Cracker on Tue Jul 26, 2016 2:10 am

@dp1 wrote:I think if I'm not mistaken the dilution is about 9 scoops for 5 quarts hydroforce container.
You can get around 6 - 7 full hydroforce per 6.5 lbs jar which I think costs around $ 30 - $ 35 ? So that would make the cost around $ 5 ?
Don't know about mixing result with OSR. I personally like power burst better than the pro zyme but it sounds like this is the new formula ?

Hate for burst your bubble, DP, But I am lol.........you need to divide scoops by 2, cutting it half, recalculate, and then your numbers would be correct, and I'll tell you why........

Any honest PC/CTI rep will tell you the directions for the amount to use is double on everything they sell, I've even been told the same thing by both the guys who work for them that do their training classes. They all say if you're mixing it by directions on the container, you're just wasting product. I gotten that directly from 3 of the horses mouths.

Apparently Clint, who's the owner and chemist of PC/CTI is a real over-doer type and likes to make sure he's putting out the best possible working products, and I have my thought on that too......Since Clint is an ex cleaner himself, he might still be thinking like one lol.......the more product that's used, the more he sells. laughing Money Pile

I used Pro-Zyme for years at 5 scoops per 5 qts. and was always very happy with it's results.

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Post by milspec6 on Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:39 am

Oh man, that would also explain why they seem to all have the same dilution rates on their products....good to know as I have been using the full amount.

I started using their OSR as a booster 8 years ago when they told me that it shouldn't be used that way....now it is pretty common-place. Experience always helps.

You just saved me some money, Thanks! Money Pile
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Re: Favorite Prespray search is over

Post by dp1 on Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:02 am

Thanks Dave ! I'll have to try that method.
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Re: Favorite Prespray search is over

Post by ACpower1 on Thu Jul 28, 2016 5:10 pm

I like OSR, Element 8 was actually pretty decent, and I like their power gel.

Pros choice makes good stuff, ill have to try the prozyme although it would be hard for me to do cleanings without adding any oxygen to pre spray.
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Post by milspec6 on Thu Jul 28, 2016 6:15 pm

I know what you mean AC, I have been adding OSR or Peroxide to the mix for the last decade. It is hard to restrain myself, but the oxygen works best on organic problems (urine, coffee, blood, etc.) as do enzyme based products. Just a little different approach.

I did try a much weaker mix last night on a commercial and didn't like the results. Not sure if it was due to the weaker mix or the fabric though. The material is a unique one that absorbs water rapidly as part of the exhibit building that it is installed in.

Actually, a very difficult building to clean as a result. Your prespray just gets sucked up like a sponge and it is tough to get a good extraction. I might have to start charging extra on that job as it takes almost 90 minutes to clean 1,000 sqft as a result.
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Post by eldiabloz on Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:30 am

Not a big fan of Pro's Choice products. One of their products an Enviro friendly solvent spotter cost me a lot of money in lost accounts/customers. This stuff re-soiled so badly it was almost impossible to rinse out, even after several return trips. I also found their solvent spot removers in the foil tubes to be unsuccessful and would dry up very quickly leaving an empty tube. I have lost all confidence in their products.
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Re: Favorite Prespray search is over

Post by milspec6 on Fri Jul 29, 2016 9:06 am

The tube products do dry up quickly in a hot van, I don't like those either. I never tried the "Enviro" line, so I can't offer anything there.

I do feel that they have some of the best spotters in the game and some of the better presprays / boosters / rinses out there. Of course, they are not perfect either, I still consider that "Firestorm" to be the worst product that I have ever tried.
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Post by brownieboy on Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:16 pm

Nice find! Did you order it or did you buy it at a store?

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