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Post by OneBlueSummer Mon May 12, 2014 10:36 am

I am sure I will always bust out the 175 for cgd and some single story homes it's just apts and multi level homes that it's gonna end up staying in the van.
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Post by milspec6 Mon May 12, 2014 1:33 pm

I actually find the act of wanding harder on the knees than the carrying of heavy equipment up the stairs. It is that repetitive back and forth motion that wears mine down more than that dozen stairs with a 75 pound machine.

The key I guess is to find a machine that is more balanced. Carrying the rx-20 over my shoulders like a 50 cal machine gun looks strange, but easier on my body and the Hoss feels well centered when carrying it.
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Post by ThaBeast Tue May 13, 2014 7:09 am

Haven't used a CRB, but haved used an RX20 for years. We still run a 175 prior to the RX20 if it is really nasty (like an exit from a kitchen in a restaurant that looks like asphalt) and last year I picked up a couple of rotovac 360i's for residential. We use an RX20 on nasty rentals

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Post by kevinj6121 Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:11 am

Great post guys as i am considering a CRB machine. Time to pull the trigger. Who can suggest best place to get one at best price, think i'll go for a 15 or 17inch.
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Post by milspec6 Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:17 am

There always seems to be crb's for sale on craigslist for a decent price.  You can also go to ebay and you will find that Marcus of "Strong Dry" is selling off his old stock of 15 inchers on there for about $1200.  They are new in box, just older models before they became called "Strong Dry".

Also, don't forget to try Joe as well...he can get you any part you may need for the "Strong Dry" models.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Carpet-Dry-Cleaning-Machine-CRB-VLM-TM-4-/281366464355?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4182bf8763
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Post by ACpower1 Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:26 pm

so far we like the blue brushes the best for the strong dry
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Post by francisco p Sat Jun 21, 2014 2:25 pm

AC I have the 3 different sets and for polyester carpet the black from strong I found the best option is the tile and grout brushes so are more aggressive.

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Post by ACpower1 Sat Jun 21, 2014 2:50 pm

nice ill have to give that a try
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Post by milspec6 Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:10 pm

I'll second the black brushes, works great on tile / grout.
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Post by OneBlueSummer Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:40 pm

Ya call Joe or look else where, I called Marcus and he wanted wayyyyyy to much for a highly used couple that he had.
I am still being a penny pincher and haven't gotten one yet. I told myself 2 months straight of being a week out on the schedule or no more new tools .
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Post by francisco p Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:57 pm

OneBlueSummer wrote:Ya call Joe or look else where, I called Marcus and he wanted wayyyyyy to much for a highly used couple that he had.
I am still being a penny pincher and haven't gotten one yet. I told myself 2 months straight of being a week out on the schedule or no more new tools .

I got mine from joe

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Post by ACpower1 Sat Jun 21, 2014 4:23 pm

hey Francisco

what is that clear tool you are using on your website that is steaming the red stains?

also curious what pre spray you use for tile/grout, thats a really good before/after pic you got there
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Post by REALCLEAN Mon Jun 23, 2014 8:39 am

I've always leaned more toward the chemistry side rather than the equipment side. It's kinda like using an axe. Two guys with the same type axe chopping different sides of the same tree. Difference is that one guy spent the time to sharpen his axe so he cuts more and faster.

Chemistry sharpens our tools.

The only piece of equipment mentioned that I don't ever use is a 175. I don't even use one on VCT any longer. It's just too limited imo.
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Post by REALCLEAN Mon Jun 23, 2014 8:43 am

I use my CRB on every job. It's a great tool!

I'm going to buy another one so I can "frankenstein" my current one. I'm gonna try and adapt a vacuum port to it.
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Post by OneBlueSummer Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:54 am

Keep us updated Judd!
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Post by francisco p Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:22 pm

ACpower1 wrote:hey Francisco

what is that clear tool you are using on your website that is steaming the red stains?

also curious what pre spray you use for tile/grout,   thats a really good before/after pic you got there

is a wall steamer that I use instead of a iron it work better for me, I've been using it for a few years now.

for tile & grout I used powermax from cobbs and Zep industrial purple

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Post by REALCLEAN Mon Jun 23, 2014 8:22 pm

That Zep purple is some pretty harsh stuff.
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Post by francisco p Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:31 pm

i use zep when I need to strip a sealer or wax in tile

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Post by Davey Cracker Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:21 am

Fuzzsucker wrote:We pre vac for two hours, prespay, crb, rotovac, edge, then bonnet with a trinity op to dry, then crb the stain guard in, then we bring in two dehus and twelve fans. All for the low price of $300 a room.  Shocked 

I've never seen the need to go threw all that noise, just to charge $300 a room. laughing ......the key is you don't say "it's $300 a room", just give the quote for full service, and let the customer decide their price!  wink 
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Post by Pete@TCC Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:06 pm

I would have to say rotary extraction, although most cases the wand is best as 95% of the time a wand does a great job in faster time.

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Post by milspec6 Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:36 pm

The Carpet Chemist wrote:I would have to say rotary extraction, although most cases the wand is best as 95% of the time a wand does a great job in faster time.

Without a doubt, you are correct.

My first year working for Phil, we only had wands and a deck broom, but we felt that we had good results.
When I went to work for Jeff in another state, he introduced me to a nice 175 machine...now I was getting somewhere.
Then I moved up to my first rx-20 and the world shifted when cleaning the really soiled carpets.
Now I also use the Hoss on residentials along with a good CRB machine and I can't believe the difference...and ease.

Like the man said, the wand is the tool for speed and effectiveness when cleaning the light to medium soil loads, but that rotary tool is a big leap for any cleaner faced with heavy soil loads. You don't have to have one, but life is a whole lot easier when you do.

Just look at all those great before / after pictures on this site...or any site...and you will see that a rotary extractor was the weapon of choice in most of the examples. That should tell us all something, don't you think? scratch 
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Post by Pete@TCC Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:04 pm

The big question is "Is the price for a rotary extractor worth it to get better results in less time on that 5% of jobs.

I had a 360i but got rid of it. Now Im ordering an encap scrubber that will double as a prespray agitator for those 5%ers. Makes more sense imho.

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