S/O/E for a rinse agent

Anybody using S/O/E as their rinse agent in their TM? If so, what ratio are diluting the solution to and what are you metering it at?
I was worried about the polymers clogging up my lines when left overnight for periods of time.

I have never had any clogging issues I tend to use it as a rinse agent on Berbers and CGD when it is in the plumbing systems it does not dry or clot or at least in my case.

for my 85 gallon tank I ad two cups or 4 cups to my 5 gallon jug and set meter at 1 gallon an hour never had any problems

you won't have any problems.
In fact it's slightly acidic so it will keep your lines and QDs squeaky clean.
Just don't switch back & forth to other acidic products like acid rinses or even deodorizers.
Flush your lines with fresh water first.

Thanks Guys. I'm going to try it.

Joe if we switch to this and have an HX after flushing lines is it ok for the HX? As long as we don't jump back and forth with other products as you stated.

not being a shill here I have both HX and LP and have had no issues with using s/o encap as a rinse agent.

Really!

I might have to do a drum order on that if I decide to switch. I have a few gallons in the shop I'll run for a while and see if I like.

Maybe Eric (pro touch ) might want to get in on that drum and split it. I could save my empty s/o drum and fill it half way. How much is the drum of s/o/e Joe?

I have always like stream lining my cleaning supplies to one place. Makes it so much easier, and with the drum payment plan it works great for us.

I use 2oz/gallon in my rinse and meter at 2. No problems at all with clogging and haven't had any wicking issues.

Yes Ryan.
Plus it's a good case of 'likes dissolves likes' when you use the two together.
S/O + S/O/E =  

(just be careful with your techs. Make sure they don't go get stupid while you're not lookin).

Joe Bristor wrote:Yes Ryan.
Plus  it's a good case of 'likes dissolves likes' when you use the two together.
S/O + S/O/E =  

(just be careful with your techs. Make sure they don't go get stupid while you're not lookin).

Got that covered cause it's will be the only thing available.  

I would love to be at the point where I can do that Ryan. I'm still the newb and don't have enough to support that yet. I look forward to the day when we can share supplies to make life easier for both of us.

Well you could just buy it from me and save the shipping. I could be the east coast Wanders.  

I use S/O/E in the rinse when I want to try to prevent wicking, seems to work well too.

I use it as directed,............"2 cups metered 1-2GPH as a rinse 4:1".

I've never considered running it all the time, but since I'm looking for a new inexpensive rinse for cleaning, I may have to try it.  

I have use it and like it used 16oz in 5 gallon consentrate @ 3 gpm

Maybe it's my imagination but drying times seem to be great using this in the rinse even on Berber. Going to experiment some more but so far so good.

That's interesting, Larry. I'm not sure it could speed up dry times?, but I really don't know....

But maybe the mastermind Joe can shed some light on that?....If it would speed drying, and how?

S/O may have a drying agent in it. I believe the encap man has some in his

None of us rug cleaners turned encap cleaner manufacturers should take an ounce of credit.
They come from other fields and other countries.
We just tapped into them.
Real scientists had developed it way before early to mid 2000s when encapping got popular here for us.
European cleaners took to it in crowded countries like Germany cuz there's no room for big, noisy truckmounts. You guys better embrace it cuz we'll be sleeping in dresser drawers if the Chinese have their way.

Ever notice how when you wax the car you can't get but half way around before it's already starting to dry?
You better get back there and buff it before it really dries, right?  
That's the acrylate coplymers (liquid plastics) coming out of solutions, solidifying as a coating (less expensive types) or crytallizing (more expensive).
The ultimate cleaning is hwe followed by an encap rinse & wipe, aka Steve Dobson.
In the mid 2000s Steve coined it as 'post Dobbing' and still gets a kick out of making people smile doing it.
That's why I say teach them like it's the car wash and wax, cuz it is. They get it; the approve of it, and they'd just soon let you do it cuz they know how hard it is. And sweat cuz it's like liquid gold to these people who would rather see you do it than them. Laugh about it 'better me than you right? You get paid well for sweat.

Dobson's got a drum of both S/O and S/O/E goin down at about the same rate.
Add any liquid car wax to your favorite prespray about 50/50 then dilute to rtu then mist it onto the back window of your work van.  
Mist your regular rtu prespray onto the other window.
The acrylate side definitely dries faster.
Run a finger through the residue on both windows after 5 minutes and the polymer side will be squeaky clean wheres there will be some greasy residue on the prespray-only side So it's just a matter of tweaking the ratios.  So now you are a one finger Chemist.
Guarantee no stoichiometry involved.

I remember explaining my simple back window tests on ICS and Steve Smith was the only other blender who chimed in, applauding my efforts. He later told me he'd done similar poor man testing of his own. The other suppliers were too proud to admit it. Instead they got me banned for spilling the beans on this oh-so-simple technology handed down to us from real chemists' years earlier.

It's the future of cleaning - safer chemistry, readily biodegradable, environmentally preferable, sustainable, all-surface cleaning followed up with speed drying of embrittled residues with the only thing left being these Flourinated acrylate copolymers (inert plastic) acting as weak protectors that aid in beading future wetness, and repelling future soils and oils.'

The only people who should take credit are the real cleaners doing the work.
Tell them 'damn right it stays clean longer, just like a wax job stays clean longer, cuz I did it.'  
Take ALL the credit so they remember you.

Learning more everyday hanging around The Cleaners Lounge. Thanks for the info Joe. That makes a lot of since.

So it wasn't my imagination after all.

This has been working great so far. Might try it for a pre-spray next as it seems to work well with the encap method. 1-2 punch.

Larry Henson wrote:Maybe it's my imagination but drying times seem to be great using this in the rinse even on Berber. Going to experiment some more but so far so good.

I think there is a drying agent in all the S/O products...at least they all seem to dry faster to me and that is a great thing.