Home brew APO?

There was a discussion a while back on a pump that someone was using for an APO. I can't seem to find it in the search. Anyone have any experience with this. Cause I'm not going to pay a grand for one.

APO s are expensive because on powerful machine they would have to fight the vacuum your running... that is why they need check valves etc

otherwise an $80 sump pump that comes with a float switch from home depot would do it.

It may have been me that said a sump pump will do it, but I was wrong in regards to larger machines.


Our new TNT is on the way being built, and it doesnt come with an APO would have been another 3k or so.

for 3k and with 150gal recovery well just be keeping a small fast sump pump close by, or installing it and then keeping the valve closed until we fill the tank.... when the tank gets close to full the shut off switch will trip and then well have to just take a coffee break for a couple min while it pumps.

but I think with a good size recovery you can get a lot done before it needs draining as long as you drain it everyday after work.

Yeah I got 75 gallon recovery. But it fills fast with the way I got my set up. I run high flow and we usually fill up every 1500_2000 sqft. Which is a huge hassle when your doing 10k sqft commercial.

Oh and I run a a Gardner Denver 4008 triflow blower.

https://thecleanerslounge.forumotion.com/t370-pump-outs-connected-to-your-tm-battery
This may be what you are looking for

I think it might have been on the old board. It was like a $200 pump someone was using with great success.

$149 for a PO mans pump out.
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200380049_200380049
Would have to shut down to pump out.

Ive been looking into bilge pumps. Seems promising.

Fuzzsucker wrote:Ive been looking into bilge pumps. Seems promising.

Jabsco Water Puppy...stainless model is what I have. My Butler APO died and when I opened it up...there was the $125 Jabsco pump staring at me. I think that APO sells for close to a grand as an option on new vans...not sure why? Jabsco Water Puppy and a marine toggle switch and breaker is all that it seems to be. Buy it all on ebay for less than $200 minus the float.

http://www.emarinesupplies.com/jabsco12vwaterpuppy.aspx

This is the one I'm been using for over five years with out a problem it cost you about $180 it will work with a blower up to 47 with no problem.
Were can I get one??
you can get it here http://store.waterpumpsupply.com/runo12vodcbi7.html
or any marine store

Another classic example of how 'Secrets kill.'
In this case it's more about insufficient information.

So many guys have touted their homegrown APOs on the boards over the years, yet not one has ever offered full documented details for others to actually use in implementing their own without having to answer several Qs on their own.
PS I'm not knocking Francisco. He is very helpful in everything he does. He just happened to post his message while I was writing this. Still, he oughta write a kit Instructions, en espanola tambien, and sell it to us gringo/blokes for twenty dolares.

So it's like musical chairs.  We've got a few working homegrown APO's, all a little different in design, and a whole bunch of half finished ones, and still a whole bunch more $2000 checks to the big boys.

As powerful as these boards could be, the big boy manufacturers still successfully dupe cleaners for millions of dollars each year; knowing that we will never work together as one to solve a problem... they laugh all the way to the banks at the success of their divide & conquer strategy.  I mean ask yourself why we never had a PC engineer ever offer to help, on these boards.  

Now look at the liquid peroxide issue, it was solved. Not with help from the chemical manufacturers duping us for $20 per quart products. Yes, there were some hints back in the early 2000s on ICS but they were squelched by the advertisers. Nope, we did work together as one. It only took us another ten years.  I taught you the basic chemistry ad infinitum, and Luddy taught you where to get it. Then as more & more of you discovered it yourselves, you came here and taught the rest of us how you did it.   Then other boards copied our teachings as if they were new. Whatever, the knowledge spread til today, many more cleaners are free from overpriced one and two-part oxidizers.

In the end, and it is still a very distant end the way you guys are going, all products we use will be sourced from the manufacturers.
Then we will take the knowledge from us coming together to piece it together.
Only THEN, will WE will be laughing our way to the banks.
We're getting there.

"Only THEN, will WE will be laughing our way to the banks.We're getting there."

I gotta admit, I'm starting to laugh on my way to the bank, thank you Joe, you're the man :-)

Pump out system for less than $200. Float switch was the most expensive part, about $90 direct from manufacturer. Pump from Harbor freight, hardware from home depot. Notice brass check valve. Ran white pvc pipe to front of machine. hooked led lit switch to battery with fuse. works great, inexpensive readily available parts. Can switch pump out for a new one in minutes. Questions?

here is the pic

Looks good. Any prefilter on that badboy? Can it run while the machine is running?

Yes it runs no problem with the machine on, Filtering the water with a filter like Joes or one of the popular pool filters is essential. Lint will f it up. I use knee highs in the filter basket, no probs. I did not install a shut off valve on the pvc where it exits the machine. If you forget to open it or turn off the pump it will burn it out. I'd rather have water shooting across the driveway then burn out the pump. My friend learned this the hard way.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000O8B386

Thinking about buying this one. A little pricy but it's a diaphragm pump and can pull up to ten feet of water lift and 8 gallons per minute. So it wont need to run for long

But $200 out the door sound pretty tempting...

wow this is cool, Im going to use one of these soon.

I didnt realize all you need is a regular check valve from home depot

So I built eldiablos APO using the harbour fright pump. Gotta say I pretty impressed. Don't know how long it will hold up but for$40 to replace that I can buy 50 of them before I would pay for the big name ones.

One thing to mention it does need to be run the first time with the machine off to prime the pump. Otherwise it will not want to start sucking. But once you got it going it runs fine. I hooked it up to the machine shut off float so the added weight of the almost full tank will help it do its job. I'll give updated info as soon as it breaks.

Thanks el diablo

Glad I could help, the harbor freight pump was somebody else's Idea. Either from this board or the previous.

this pump is heavy duty but it works great
http://www.ebay.com/itm/141182682391?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

28 gpm! Wow

28 gpm! Wow?????

your not going to get that much gpm through a garden hose that might be what they have it rated at.