Soils and oils and slop and gobble

Anybody got some papers? Lol

[quote="Mo"]Andy,

Do you still believe that "there is nothing harmful" in the ingredients of Slop and Gobble? If yes then that's were we disagree.

It's not a matter of what I belive, it's a matter of truth. apparently there is harmfull ingredents, as was pointed out by Charlie. So we agree. I was going by what they label said and what it described on the Judson web site, I never read the MSDS, to go thru ingredient's, so I stand corrected.

The MSDS had slop and with a health rating of "1" and soils and oils with a "0" that makes soils and oils safer than slop according to the MSDS


Yes is does, I never claimed other wise , lol,

Just because soils and oils is is safer than slop goggle that does not make slop and gobble unsafe

I agree

We are in 1000% agreement MO, and belive we were in agreement all along.

Dang it I really wanted to disagree with someone 

What is not debatable at the lounge is weather cleaners can discuss, criticize, opinionate, debate the use of cleaning industry products and equipment. Even of those products are from advertisers on this forum.

Ryan S wrote:Anybody got some papers?  Lol

Yea, just stop by my house and I'll give you some of mine.  

Or better yet, it may be less expensive for you to order it from McMaster Carr..........Where I bought my "Jumbo Size" from, which makes it easier to use and read.   

I just found it for less/cheap on Ebay...........

http://www.ebay.com/itm/pH-Test-Paper-Hydrion-Single-Roll-Dispenser-0-13-HJ-613-JUMBO-ROLL-50-/221326684960?_trksid=p2054897.l5659

Ccumato wrote:Ok. I have a gallon of SOE and pick up liquid peroxide. I used it before with S/O

Two schools of thought here:

1. Run the S/O/E in the rinse
2. Add it right to the S/O mix + peroxide (my preference)

I use mostly the HF sprayers, so if you are doing it that way too, this is what I mix up...give or take in a 5 qt inline:

20 oz S/O
8 oz S/O/E
Peroxide varies according to conditions, but probably around 8 oz.

Spray the stains first, then spray the rest of the carpet.
Agitate with what-ever you want
Extract
Collect a check

just want to point out that we are carefully spraying these solutions on carpet,  then extracting them with 200f+ water,     not drinking them or using them as salad dressing.    

Tide is used widely throughout the US for laundry.     Do you guys feel that if you used tide to wash your clothes for say 40 years that you would be putting yourself at risk?  

I never pre spray a house with the customers animals or kids walking around,   this is a strict rule in our business.      I dont care what it is,   or how safe it is...   I dont want anyone licking it.      

Im just stirring the pot on the discussion lol       I believe in using safe chemistry, and have a drum of s/o

ACpower1 wrote:just want to point out that we are carefully spraying these solutions on carpet,  then extracting them with 200f+ water,     not drinking them or using them as salad dressing.    

Tide is used widely throughout the US for laundry.     Do you guys feel that if you used tide to wash your clothes for say 40 years that you would be putting yourself at risk?  

I never pre spray a house with the customers animals or kids walking around,   this is a strict rule in our business.      I dont care what it is,   or how safe it is...   I dont want anyone licking it.      

Im just stirring the pot on the discussion lol       I believe in using safe chemistry,   and have a drum of s/o

Amen to that post. If we continue to be a reckless industry, we will end up needing a chemical applicator's license similar to the exterminators.

That's good advise right there.

You know when you eat something bad, you get some food poisoning, you get sick, weak, lay down with stomach ache. It eventually passes. Then you start looking for the culprit.  You may have no idea what it was that caused it, was it the turkey, the cranberry sauce or the pie? hmmm.
You go back to all those foods you ate and somehow your body instinctively knows which one it was; don't touch that one again.  The culprit goes in the trash guilty or not.  Same with people and their pets.

Pets can't tell people when they are sick but people tend to pick up on it cuz they're so close to their pets.


So that's good advise trying to keep people and pets away while you work.
When pets get sick, their owners pick up on it and they start looking for the culprit.
Don't let them instinctively pin the blame on you.  I'm pretty sure it's happened to me a few times.
Don't be the culprit.
Leave as little behind as you can.
Even if you think it's safe get it out of there.

Cuz you know Tyco will be coming along behind you licking the carpet...

Took me 20 years to figure it out....
They don't want an 'experience' with their carpet cleaner. NO.
They want us in & out of there so fast nobody ever knew we were there. Not their neighbors. Nobody.
Only evidence should be how clean it is.
You sure don't wanna make them sick ... if you do they damn sure will suspect it was you.
In & out, fast, like we were never there, 'honey come look. Doesn't it look just like the day it was laid?"
That's all they want.

BTW, I sell the Jumbo pH pak.... have for years... you just gotta ask.

Here is some pictures from a job I just finished up on. Some nasty rental poly, used Robs mix with and exception of I had 24oz s/o and 12oz s/o/e. Just for Chris, I did not scrub at all. Used my Boxxer which is close to what you have Chris with exception of psi and flow probably. I rinsed with master extractor at 600 psi.





And a video to boot. Just for technique. Lol

I ve gotten the same results with just soils n oils no encap mixed in. Might be interesting to try out.

When I vlm clean (not often any more) I mix 50/ 50 that is 2 oz of encap with 2 oz of prespray, pads come out way blacker and cuts like a hot knife. Only problem is you have to go thru twice as many pads.

Andy Mc wrote:I ve gotten the same results with just soils n oils  no encap mixed in.    Might be interesting to try out.  

When I vlm clean (not often any more) I mix 50/ 50     that is 2 oz of encap with 2 oz of prespray,    pads come out way blacker  and cuts like a hot knife.  Only problem is you have to go thru twice as many pads.

That is how that mix came about actually, it was a vlm job where I added S/O to boost the encap. I didn't carry enough bonnets that day and had to wand half the room....the results really stood out. It became my extraction mix from that day onward.

If I was better organized with far more bonnets, it might have gone the other way, but I prefer to wand anyway.

Nice work, as always, Ryan!!   

Hacking it out Baby!!!!!   

Never mined how well it works, anyone else have a hard time with the name of "SlopnGobble"?.......just sounds so Ghetto nasty!!   

Davey Cracker wrote:Never mined  how well it works, anyone else have a hard time with the name of "SlopnGobble"?.......just sounds so Ghetto nasty!!    

Nah. I actually like it. But, I guess that's cause I'm from the south.   

Oh, credit goes to Rob. Thanks for the concoction. First time I have used it. Best part was there were no harsh chems used. And it was a clean odorless job.

Oh, and I'm working in the slop job to. Sorry didn't have the slop in this van. I was kinda pissed I didn't have it. Would have been a perfect job. I'll do better next time.

Nice job on both the carpet and the video Ryan. I was trying to see what temp you were at on the gauge, but couldn't pick it up....just curious.

The boxxer only hits 160 at best on filthy carpet. Cause you flush so much h2o the HX can't keep up. I'm thinking of installing a lg and dropping the HX.

Or just add a pre scrub and do one pass cleaning in stead of 5 pass cleaning, your HX should be able to keep up with that.

Andy Mc wrote:Or just add a pre scrub and do one pass cleaning in stead of 5 pass cleaning,  your HX  should be able to keep up with that.

I would agree with that....a pre-scrub not only helps the Hx limitations, but it really wakes up that S/O/E component of the mix.

I don't know how the Boxxer is set-up, but I've discovered that flow actually helped my Butler create better heat. In fact, replacing my water pump to a higher flow unit actually increased my heat at the wand. It sounds like it should be the reverse in results, but the burns on my hand say other wise. I was pushing about 175 atwm but now I'm hitting 185-190 atw pretty steady on a 12 flow wand.

What is the gpm on the pump your using Rob. Mine is 3.5 gpm.

increasing the flow on the wand should help the heat. it cools off pretty fast on the way to the wand depending on the hose you use. Takes a while to clear all the water in the line from the truck to the wand at about 150ft when using say like a 7flow wand.